Staples for trim

sleek lemur · Jun 8th, 2020, 17:55

Am restoring the footwell kickboards in my 1800E. The vinyl trim is held to the hardboard with stubby staples with a 3mm leg. Try as I might I can't source these. Does anyone know a supplier?

Bob Meadows · Jun 8th, 2020, 18:10

https://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/product/1587/staples

4mm via the above:~ try other classic car trim shops-- coverdale & Segals are good.

sleek lemur · Jun 8th, 2020, 19:06

Thanks Bob, but these suppliers only do 4mm. We need 3mm, otherwise we risk the leg of the staple poking through the vinyl. Good news is I found a supplier! Min order is 10,000, so will shortly be in a position to supply the entire Volvo community.

However now I'm having trouble finding a reasonably priced device to fire staples shorter than 4mm.

It's never straightforward, is it?

cassell · Jun 8th, 2020, 19:41

Back in the 1970's adhesive technology was in it's infancy and staples were the norm. When I did the same job as you on my 1800E and a similar job on a Morris Minor 1000 for my father in law in the late 1980's I used contact adhesive instead of staples.

Be careful not to get any on the surface of your vinyl, but with plenty of clamps, grips and strong clothes pegs to sandwich the hardboard/glue/vinyl between suitable strips of wood, the result was excellent and never came unstuck again!

Bob Meadows · Jun 8th, 2020, 21:42

Not sure what you are trimming but you could use some extra material on the back to take up the 1mm? Any padding – this will also allow a little leeway.
Bob.

sleek lemur · Jun 9th, 2020, 08:05

Thanks Cassel and Bob. Yes, sleeping on this I decided to glue. I'm never likely to have to remove the vinyl and if I muck it up, Brookhouse do offer complete replacements at a pretty reasonable price.

Bob, thanks. Why didn't I think of that?😏

Bob Meadows · Jun 9th, 2020, 11:14

Been there! I would recommend gluing & staples to reinforce the grip.
That was the original procedure on a '54 Riley.
Regards Bob

(White spirit will remove any glue marks on the face side)

Derek UK · Jun 9th, 2020, 16:42

Unless your vinyl has a foam backing consider a very thin foam scrim on the board first. That will also get you a fraction of leeway with the staples.
Martrim do 2mm scrim foam. They also do 4mm staples.
https://www.martrim.co.uk/car-trimmi...scrim-foam.php
I know the 3mm problem as I was going to do a couple of Amazon door cards. I seem to remember that I did find some at Machine Mart but they don't list them currently. Can't check as they are up in my garage and I haven't been there since the start of lock-down!

Jun 8th, 2020, 17:55	#1
sleek lemur Senior Member Last Online: Dec 29th, 2022 11:47 Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Thorndon, near Eye, Suffolk, England	Staples for trim Am restoring the footwell kickboards in my 1800E. The vinyl trim is held to the hardboard with stubby staples with a 3mm leg. Try as I might I can't source these. Does anyone know a supplier?

Jun 9th, 2020, 11:14	#7
Bob Meadows Premier Member Last Online: Today 10:14 Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: STANDISH LANCASHIRE	Been there! I would recommend gluing & staples to reinforce the grip. That was the original procedure on a '54 Riley. Regards Bob (White spirit will remove any glue marks on the face side) Last edited by Bob Meadows; Jun 9th, 2020 at 11:16.

Jun 8th, 2020, 18:10	#2
Bob Meadows Premier Member Last Online: Today 10:14 Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: STANDISH LANCASHIRE	https://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/product/1587/staples 4mm via the above:~ try other classic car trim shops-- coverdale & Segals are good.

Jun 8th, 2020, 19:06	#3
sleek lemur Senior Member Last Online: Dec 29th, 2022 11:47 Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Thorndon, near Eye, Suffolk, England	Thanks Bob, but these suppliers only do 4mm. We need 3mm, otherwise we risk the leg of the staple poking through the vinyl. Good news is I found a supplier! Min order is 10,000, so will shortly be in a position to supply the entire Volvo community. However now I'm having trouble finding a reasonably priced device to fire staples shorter than 4mm. It's never straightforward, is it?

Jun 8th, 2020, 19:41	#4
cassell Member since 1988 Last Online: Jun 9th, 2024 10:43 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Middlewich	Back in the 1970's adhesive technology was in it's infancy and staples were the norm. When I did the same job as you on my 1800E and a similar job on a Morris Minor 1000 for my father in law in the late 1980's I used contact adhesive instead of staples. Be careful not to get any on the surface of your vinyl, but with plenty of clamps, grips and strong clothes pegs to sandwich the hardboard/glue/vinyl between suitable strips of wood, the result was excellent and never came unstuck again!

Jun 8th, 2020, 21:42	#5
Bob Meadows Premier Member Last Online: Today 10:14 Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: STANDISH LANCASHIRE	Not sure what you are trimming but you could use some extra material on the back to take up the 1mm? Any padding – this will also allow a little leeway. Bob.

Jun 9th, 2020, 08:05	#6
sleek lemur Senior Member Last Online: Dec 29th, 2022 11:47 Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Thorndon, near Eye, Suffolk, England	Thanks Cassel and Bob. Yes, sleeping on this I decided to glue. I'm never likely to have to remove the vinyl and if I muck it up, Brookhouse do offer complete replacements at a pretty reasonable price. Bob, thanks. Why didn't I think of that?😏

Jun 9th, 2020, 16:42	#8
Derek UK VOC Member Last Online: Jun 15th, 2024 11:39 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chatham	Unless your vinyl has a foam backing consider a very thin foam scrim on the board first. That will also get you a fraction of leeway with the staples. Martrim do 2mm scrim foam. They also do 4mm staples. https://www.martrim.co.uk/car-trimmi...scrim-foam.php I know the 3mm problem as I was going to do a couple of Amazon door cards. I seem to remember that I did find some at Machine Mart but they don't list them currently. Can't check as they are up in my garage and I haven't been there since the start of lock-down!

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