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Reverse Turning Wheels Judder

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Old Dec 18th, 2022, 15:03   #1
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OK, so I seem to be getting all the issues currently.

When reversing and wheels are turned, they feel like they are jumping/skipping etc. Is this the tracking or toe in/out causing this? It's fine in a straight line.

Car drives nice and straight, doesn't track of course.

My other thought is in the past an incorrect sided balljoint has been fitted?

Anyone had this before?
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Is it on full lock when that happens?
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It's a feature of big old Volvo's, it can be exacerbated by worn suspension but it is completely normal in my experience with them.
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OK, so I seem to be getting all the issues currently.

When reversing and wheels are turned, they feel like they are jumping/skipping etc. Is this the tracking or toe in/out causing this? It's fine in a straight line.

Car drives nice and straight, doesn't track of course.

My other thought is in the past an incorrect sided balljoint has been fitted?

Anyone had this before?
Coincidentally someone has posted a similar query on 7/900 site a little while ago they had a S90 that had skipping front wheels on full lock.

Seems just a characteristic of these big old Volvos, but worth just checking suspension bushes etc. Just in case.

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Is it on full lock when that happens?
I don't think so, it seems to be when the wheel is turned to park etc.
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It's a feature of big old Volvo's, it can be exacerbated by worn suspension but it is completely normal in my experience with them.
Cheers, exactly the issue I have, and that gives me places to start looking.

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I think it's largely an inevitable consequence of the cars' having such small turning circle - the front wheels turn through a wide angle, so scrub a lot on the road at full lock.
There's a particular tyre supplier I used to go to who had a large flat area painted with that special shiny garage floor paint. It was impossible to stop the wheels making an incredible screeching when manoeuvring, both forwards and backwards. I used to enjoy showing off by making a complete U-turn inside the garage, which made a noise like the sound effects from a car-chase film .

It will also be exagerated by any suspension and steering joint wear, or slight wobble in the wheel bearings.
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I'm also going to say it's normal and gets significantly worse when it's cold and on particular surfaces.

I replaced every single bush and replaceable component as part of the resto. When I first reversed it out of the drive onto the street it did this quite violently when I reached full lock. It was really cold that day and there were some stones and frost on the ground.

I tried to replicate it one day and couldn't, so I forgot about it.

Last week reversing out of a tight parking space it did it again. Frosty ground, full lock.

I think it's safe to ignore.
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I'm also going to say it's normal and gets significantly worse when it's cold and on particular surfaces.

I replaced every single bush and replaceable component as part of the resto. When I first reversed it out of the drive onto the street it did this quite violently when I reached full lock. It was really cold that day and there were some stones and frost on the ground.

I tried to replicate it one day and couldn't, so I forgot about it.

Last week reversing out of a tight parking space it did it again. Frosty ground, full lock.

I think it's safe to ignore.
I have noticed it only over this past week when it has been hovering around/below zero most days. So I will try and replicate once it gets warmer out there! Cheers
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