side lights

twilightflyer · Dec 5th, 2012, 19:05

Whwn I up graded my single headlights to twin the side light bulbs are blue
when switched on, is this OK for the MOT? don't want to get an MOT failure.

rexer12 · Dec 5th, 2012, 19:14

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Originally Posted by twilightflyer

Whwn I up graded my single headlights to twin the side light bulbs are blue
when switched on, is this OK for the MOT? don't want to get an MOT failure.

if they are xenon they should be ok

pinhead · Dec 5th, 2012, 19:32

if they are producing a proper blue light they are illegal, if they are xenon as mentioned above and just have a blue hint to them they are fine

DXMachina · Dec 5th, 2012, 20:55

I've passed several MOTs (former as well as current cars) with LED sidelights that have a blueish-white hue. As above, displaying a blue light on your vehicle is a criminal offence as well as an MOT fail.

magnuz · Dec 5th, 2012, 20:57

Front side lights need to show white light unless incorporated in a yellow headlamp !
Headlamps also need to show white or yellow light
Reason for rejection : An obligatory headlamp shows light that is not substantially white or yellow

http://mottesters.co.uk/files/specia...n%20Manual.pdf

zeroXten · Dec 5th, 2012, 22:50

Interestingly, that document doesn't say anything about side markers from what I can see.

magnuz · Dec 5th, 2012, 23:30

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Originally Posted by zeroXten

Interestingly, that document doesn't say anything about side markers from what I can see.

I think the side markers were put on volvo's ( & some other cars) to comply with US lighting regulations.

As they aren't a legal requirement in UK or most of europe,(for cars) it probably doesn't matter whether they work or not for MOT purposes.

Although they are a legal requirment for large commercial vehicles.

Personally i think they look rather cool on the S40/V40 & make our cars look distinctive !

m1tch1987 · Dec 6th, 2012, 21:30

Side markers MUST show as a yellow light (as with any other lighting at the side of the car), white at the front and red on the rear (the reversing light isn't part of the MOT).

I have white LEDs in my sidelights and standard Osram Neolux headlights (cheapest Osrams on ebay). Never had an issue with the MOT with the sidelights and the Osrams give a really good light so I don't need to worry about upgrading to HIDs, halogen bulb tech has come a long way since I started driving!

DXMachina · Dec 6th, 2012, 23:40

Side markers are an 'obvious' for LEDs - I have white '12 x SMD' 501s in my Phase 2 V40's markers. Much brighter than the originals and the extra benefit of using less electrical current...

twilightflyer · Dec 7th, 2012, 10:16

I have double checked the bulbs and they are the xenon type, so many thanks guys for your help.

Dec 5th, 2012, 19:05	#1
twilightflyer Senior Member Last Online: Jul 16th, 2023 11:37 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: East Yorkshire	side lights Whwn I up graded my single headlights to twin the side light bulbs are blue when switched on, is this OK for the MOT? don't want to get an MOT failure.

Dec 5th, 2012, 20:55	#4
DXMachina I ate all your bees Last Online: Sep 1st, 2023 17:00 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Rickmansworth, Herts	I've passed several MOTs (former as well as current cars) with LED sidelights that have a blueish-white hue. As above, displaying a blue light on your vehicle is a criminal offence as well as an MOT fail. __________________ '98 Saab 9-3 2.3i Conv owner. Former keeper of 1996 Saab 900iS 2.0 conv, 2001 V40 2.0i, 1999 Mondeo TD, 1995 Mondeo TD, 1990 Passat GT16v, 1983 Passat 1.8CL

Dec 5th, 2012, 22:50	#6
zeroXten Member Last Online: Feb 14th, 2015 21:28 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: St Albans	Interestingly, that document doesn't say anything about side markers from what I can see. __________________ 2002 Volvo S40 2.0 SE Auto

Dec 6th, 2012, 21:30	#8
m1tch1987 Premier Member Last Online: Dec 29th, 2013 12:08 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Berkhamsted	Side markers MUST show as a yellow light (as with any other lighting at the side of the car), white at the front and red on the rear (the reversing light isn't part of the MOT). I have white LEDs in my sidelights and standard Osram Neolux headlights (cheapest Osrams on ebay). Never had an issue with the MOT with the sidelights and the Osrams give a really good light so I don't need to worry about upgrading to HIDs, halogen bulb tech has come a long way since I started driving! __________________ 2003 Volvo V40 1.9D Sport - MPG below

Dec 6th, 2012, 23:40	#9
DXMachina I ate all your bees Last Online: Sep 1st, 2023 17:00 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Rickmansworth, Herts	Side markers are an 'obvious' for LEDs - I have white '12 x SMD' 501s in my Phase 2 V40's markers. Much brighter than the originals and the extra benefit of using less electrical current... __________________ '98 Saab 9-3 2.3i Conv owner. Former keeper of 1996 Saab 900iS 2.0 conv, 2001 V40 2.0i, 1999 Mondeo TD, 1995 Mondeo TD, 1990 Passat GT16v, 1983 Passat 1.8CL

Dec 5th, 2012, 19:32	#3
pinhead Master Member Last Online: Apr 18th, 2017 22:38 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: na	if they are producing a proper blue light they are illegal, if they are xenon as mentioned above and just have a blue hint to them they are fine

Dec 5th, 2012, 20:57	#5
magnuz Ancient Last Online: Yesterday 17:49 Join Date: May 2012 Location: chesterfield	Front side lights need to show white light unless incorporated in a yellow headlamp ! Headlamps also need to show white or yellow light Reason for rejection : An obligatory headlamp shows light that is not substantially white or yellow http://mottesters.co.uk/files/specia...n%20Manual.pdf

Dec 7th, 2012, 10:16	#10
twilightflyer Senior Member Last Online: Jul 16th, 2023 11:37 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: East Yorkshire	I have double checked the bulbs and they are the xenon type, so many thanks guys for your help.

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