Engine Service Require - ECM6805 - Page 4

GSMGuy · Jan 16th, 2010, 17:57

Cheers Clan, so I take it the inj pump is on the inlet cam??

Blinking items did not arrive today, as sat delivery is extra

So Mon now...

Mike

Multiplex · Jan 17th, 2010, 23:12

Correct, injection pump inlet cam, vac pump exhaust cam.

rocky · Jan 18th, 2010, 13:23

Hello, I havent been on this forum in a while, whichc is good cause my car has been goingwell. I have a 2003 V70 D5.

I had the same problem and my volvo garage went through all the motions during the Christmas Holidays 2008.

The up shot to the problem, was alledgedly the Catalytic Convertor. When I accelerated over 2000 - 2500 rpm, the engine would drop into limp mode, occasionally I would have had alot of white smoke.

It started off it happened now and again but got to the stage where the car was dangerous to drive as it was happeneing evvery time i pulled out at road ends or overtook etc. The garage swapped out various components, to do with the trubo and air flow meters but the cat fixed it. I have not had the problem now in over 12 months.

The cost to repair was in excess of a grand which I was not happy with but least if fixed the problem. Hope this helps for you.

Multiplex · Jan 18th, 2010, 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocky

Hello, I havent been on this forum in a while, whichc is good cause my car has been goingwell. I have a 2003 V70 D5.

I had the same problem and my volvo garage went through all the motions during the Christmas Holidays 2008.

The up shot to the problem, was alledgedly the Catalytic Convertor. When I accelerated over 2000 - 2500 rpm, the engine would drop into limp mode, occasionally I would have had alot of white smoke.

It started off it happened now and again but got to the stage where the car was dangerous to drive as it was happeneing evvery time i pulled out at road ends or overtook etc. The garage swapped out various components, to do with the trubo and air flow meters but the cat fixed it. I have not had the problem now in over 12 months.

The cost to repair was in excess of a grand which I was not happy with but least if fixed the problem. Hope this helps for you.

Was this logging the fault code ECM 6805 - Turbo Boost Pressure?

RobI · Jan 21st, 2010, 15:47

If it is the turbo, how can it be so infrequent (if that is not such a difficult question)?

I get this every 500-600 miles for example. As mentioned, I don't drive the car hard but if I do accelerate hard it is ok. The error occurs 'mostly' in 2nd/3rd gear low rev (1000-1500) rpm with moderate accelerator applied so the turbo is not really spinning hard. I'll try and so if I can repro the problem by accelerating up hill in a high gear/ low speed as that seemed to lead to the error the most - not sure if that info is any use...

I still wonder whether it is a leak somewhere which opens up once in a while but I'm not remotely qualified to know where or how to look. Can leak tests be certain to prove the pipes are ok?

The trouble is I have no other reference to know whether my car is driving normally but other than this occassional error it appears ok. I've only had the car 13 months on a 54 plate and half the time now I've had this problem.

The other thing is whilst a turbo replacement is I suspect the course of action Volvo recommend next, what guarantee will they give to that fixing the problem i.e. if it turns out to be something else? It's one thing to spend a lot of money to repair the car but its another to spend that to try and repair a fault.

Has anyone else cured this with a catalytic convertor replacement - I wonder whether that produces the same ECM code?

GSMGuy · Jan 21st, 2010, 21:00

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=88190

Mike

johnsons31 · Jan 22nd, 2010, 14:02

hi mike

we have been having the exact symptoms you describe for over a year now - have posted previously but had no help - we have v70 awd d5 163hp 2004 - nearly everytime i pull away up a hill from a standing start or sometimes joining motorway so need extra power than just poodling along it goes into limp mode - so have to stop, turn off & on again, then cleared. sometimes does this 3 times a day, sometimes not for a week but can make it happen to order. never first thing in the morning when cold. nearly always in afternoon when has been driven, stopped & started again. drove to germany twice this year doing 80 on the autobahn all day and not a murmer.

anyway, dealer we bought from (independant volvo) had tried various things then sent to local volvo service who said need to change turbo. have already paid out for other repairs/investigations, how do i know a new turbo will fix it.

how can it drive fine at top speed for hours but can't make it up a hill.

have told dealer that i will live with it rather than paying out more in the hope that a cure will be found.

its great news that you have cured yours but we dont have the option of fixing ourselves so are at the mercy of the garages. we are in the same business as you and also have the same work ethic - how come we are the ones labelled as cowboys?

anyway, any words of advice greatfully received

G4WJH · Feb 22nd, 2010, 23:34

Hi all....have just posted similar concern....and then found this thread.

I've been advised it seams turbo related - but have you seen the thread about it being linked to the catalytic converter? I'd have never have thought - but seams to have cured the problem (think I'd research the turbo route first - least expensive!!!)

Regards

R-P · Apr 27th, 2010, 09:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clan

30774597 £52.50 ,
consists of boost valve , Bracket , some nice staniless steel pipe and silicon vacuum pipes ... Primarily for D4204T but visibly the same as the D5 boost valve ..

Thanks for this advice!
Has anyone tried this as a direct fit for the original D5 one? The pics in Vadis differ a little. Is the electrical plug a straight fit?
My turbo nozzle control governor has a leak in its membrane, and I rather pay £50 than £110

(There's a new one for sale on the Dutch equivalent of Ebay, but he wants 90 euro's for it (excluding shipping), getting the V50 one at the local Volvodealer will be probably be cheaper...)

Bernard333 · Apr 27th, 2010, 10:29

I have seen these solenoid valves for sale on ebay for as little as £10 for a 163bhp D5 ( second hand of course ) , why not try one of the breakers in the UK like Salvo group and most of these breakers advertise on ebay just offering one wheel nut off the car for £1 to get the exposure . Some of them can be quite reasonable in their prices and of course there are also quite a few cowboys who think they can sell an 8 year old part for more than the cost of a new one .

Jan 22nd, 2010, 14:02	#37
johnsons31 New Member Last Online: Jan 22nd, 2010 14:02 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: BUCKS	exact same symptons hi mike we have been having the exact symptoms you describe for over a year now - have posted previously but had no help - we have v70 awd d5 163hp 2004 - nearly everytime i pull away up a hill from a standing start or sometimes joining motorway so need extra power than just poodling along it goes into limp mode - so have to stop, turn off & on again, then cleared. sometimes does this 3 times a day, sometimes not for a week but can make it happen to order. never first thing in the morning when cold. nearly always in afternoon when has been driven, stopped & started again. drove to germany twice this year doing 80 on the autobahn all day and not a murmer. anyway, dealer we bought from (independant volvo) had tried various things then sent to local volvo service who said need to change turbo. have already paid out for other repairs/investigations, how do i know a new turbo will fix it. how can it drive fine at top speed for hours but can't make it up a hill. have told dealer that i will live with it rather than paying out more in the hope that a cure will be found. its great news that you have cured yours but we dont have the option of fixing ourselves so are at the mercy of the garages. we are in the same business as you and also have the same work ethic - how come we are the ones labelled as cowboys? anyway, any words of advice greatfully received

Feb 22nd, 2010, 23:34	#38
G4WJH New Member Last Online: Jul 25th, 2011 00:09 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northants	Urgent Engine Management Service required Hi all....have just posted similar concern....and then found this thread. I've been advised it seams turbo related - but have you seen the thread about it being linked to the catalytic converter? I'd have never have thought - but seams to have cured the problem (think I'd research the turbo route first - least expensive!!!) Regards

Jan 16th, 2010, 17:57	#31
GSMGuy Master Member Last Online: Apr 23rd, 2024 17:43 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: St Helens Merseyside View Photos By: GSMGuy	Cheers Clan, so I take it the inj pump is on the inlet cam?? Blinking items did not arrive today, as sat delivery is extra So Mon now... Mike

Jan 17th, 2010, 23:12	#32
Multiplex Senior Member Last Online: Jan 29th, 2019 22:42 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North West	Correct, injection pump inlet cam, vac pump exhaust cam.

Jan 18th, 2010, 13:23	#33
rocky New Member Last Online: Nov 24th, 2014 15:48 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: magherafelt	Hello, I havent been on this forum in a while, whichc is good cause my car has been goingwell. I have a 2003 V70 D5. I had the same problem and my volvo garage went through all the motions during the Christmas Holidays 2008. The up shot to the problem, was alledgedly the Catalytic Convertor. When I accelerated over 2000 - 2500 rpm, the engine would drop into limp mode, occasionally I would have had alot of white smoke. It started off it happened now and again but got to the stage where the car was dangerous to drive as it was happeneing evvery time i pulled out at road ends or overtook etc. The garage swapped out various components, to do with the trubo and air flow meters but the cat fixed it. I have not had the problem now in over 12 months. The cost to repair was in excess of a grand which I was not happy with but least if fixed the problem. Hope this helps for you.

Jan 21st, 2010, 15:47	#35
RobI New Member Last Online: Oct 17th, 2011 13:15 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: N/A	If it is the turbo, how can it be so infrequent (if that is not such a difficult question)? I get this every 500-600 miles for example. As mentioned, I don't drive the car hard but if I do accelerate hard it is ok. The error occurs 'mostly' in 2nd/3rd gear low rev (1000-1500) rpm with moderate accelerator applied so the turbo is not really spinning hard. I'll try and so if I can repro the problem by accelerating up hill in a high gear/ low speed as that seemed to lead to the error the most - not sure if that info is any use... I still wonder whether it is a leak somewhere which opens up once in a while but I'm not remotely qualified to know where or how to look. Can leak tests be certain to prove the pipes are ok? The trouble is I have no other reference to know whether my car is driving normally but other than this occassional error it appears ok. I've only had the car 13 months on a 54 plate and half the time now I've had this problem. The other thing is whilst a turbo replacement is I suspect the course of action Volvo recommend next, what guarantee will they give to that fixing the problem i.e. if it turns out to be something else? It's one thing to spend a lot of money to repair the car but its another to spend that to try and repair a fault. Has anyone else cured this with a catalytic convertor replacement - I wonder whether that produces the same ECM code?

Jan 21st, 2010, 21:00	#36
GSMGuy Master Member Last Online: Apr 23rd, 2024 17:43 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: St Helens Merseyside View Photos By: GSMGuy	http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=88190 Mike

Apr 27th, 2010, 10:29	#40
Bernard333 Premier Member Last Online: Oct 20th, 2021 11:41 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ramelton	I have seen these solenoid valves for sale on ebay for as little as £10 for a 163bhp D5 ( second hand of course ) , why not try one of the breakers in the UK like Salvo group and most of these breakers advertise on ebay just offering one wheel nut off the car for £1 to get the exposure . Some of them can be quite reasonable in their prices and of course there are also quite a few cowboys who think they can sell an 8 year old part for more than the cost of a new one .

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