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Old Oct 12th, 2024, 20:06   #1
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Hi all,

Was replacing my RHS rear brake rotor today as I'd been hearing some squealing and the wearing on the previous one looked as if it had been warped, and so I swapped out the pads, pins, shims, rotor.

When I was down in the handbrake, I noticed a series of unusual things that I wanted to ask about.

1. Is it normal for the shoes to not make contact with what looks like a stopper when the handbrake is disengaged (see image one)

2. Why does my hinged actuator bit not look the same as what I've seen on forums/youtube? (see image 2 for mine vs 3 for online). Mine is missing the part with the hole in it that protrudes toward the inside of the drum.

3. When I tried to fit the new rotor, it didn't fit around the handbrake shoes. I've ordered one of those adjustable screws to replace the flatbar spacer (which I've shaved down ever so slightly as a temporary fix). Is this normal? Why does this happen?
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Old Oct 13th, 2024, 00:03   #2
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Hi all,

Was replacing my RHS rear brake rotor today as I'd been hearing some squealing and the wearing on the previous one looked as if it had been warped, and so I swapped out the pads, pins, shims, rotor.

When I was down in the handbrake, I noticed a series of unusual things that I wanted to ask about.

1. Is it normal for the shoes to not make contact with what looks like a stopper when the handbrake is disengaged (see image one)

2. Why does my hinged actuator bit not look the same as what I've seen on forums/youtube? (see image 2 for mine vs 3 for online). Mine is missing the part with the hole in it that protrudes toward the inside of the drum.

3. When I tried to fit the new rotor, it didn't fit around the handbrake shoes. I've ordered one of those adjustable screws to replace the flatbar spacer (which I've shaved down ever so slightly as a temporary fix). Is this normal? Why does this happen?

1, Yes it can be ok depending on how much shoe wear.

2, you are probably looking at an image of an older 900.

3 Don't change anything the flat bar is correct the adjustment is on the back of the handbrake lever a big black plastic nut you turn by hand.. you need to slacken it to get the disc back on then re adjust to get the handbrake travel to about 3 clicks of the lever.
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1, Yes it can be ok depending on how much shoe wear.
Okay, good to know!

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2, you are probably looking at an image of an older 900.
I've seen a combination of videos of similar age 940s, and some photos from newer volvo models and they all seem to use a similar mechanism, but different to mine. I read somewhere about some changes to the handbrake cable termination and how the ones I've seen in pictures are used for the new termination method and I wonder if mine is the old one...

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3 Don't change anything the flat bar is correct the adjustment is on the back of the handbrake lever a big black plastic nut you turn by hand.. you need to slacken it to get the disc back on then re adjust to get the handbrake travel to about 3 clicks of the lever.
When I was doing this work, I had the handbrake cable slacked all the way off and it still wouldn't fit.. I've heard that putting an adjustment screw in is a common mod for this handbrake and to me it looks like it provides the option of fine tuning the brakes once the drum is over the top of them as well as making the refitting of the drum easier...
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Okay, good to know!



I've seen a combination of videos of similar age 940s, and some photos from newer volvo models and they all seem to use a similar mechanism, but different to mine. I read somewhere about some changes to the handbrake cable termination and how the ones I've seen in pictures are used for the new termination method and I wonder if mine is the old one...
if you cant get the drum on the cable isnt slackened enough.. of course someone could have bodged it somehow before you had the car that seems more common as each year passes these days.


When I was doing this work, I had the handbrake cable slacked all the way off and it still wouldn't fit.. I've heard that putting an adjustment screw in is a common mod for this handbrake and to me it looks like it provides the option of fine tuning the brakes once the drum is over the top of them as well as making the refitting of the drum easier...
If you cant get the drum on then there is something wrong, don't make it worse by adding something else which shouldn't be there to get by . The trouble is as these cars get older and pass through many different owners lots of bodges happen down the line, wrong handbrake cable perhaps or shoes too thick or too thin, or non volvo which is the wrong part etc .
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This is what my 940 handbrake is like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuR1kfqwH2o

Looks nothing like yours
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This is what the handbrake actuator looks like on my '98 LPT. Seems quite similar to yours. I did not have any particalar issues with replacing the brake shoes, other than getting them centered correctly around the hub before I could slide the drum on. Use some sand paper to get the inside of the drum smooth again.
I replaced the flatbar spacer for adjustable one as well. It was a reasonable fit, although I needed to remove some material to get them in place. Once fitted I could no longer use the little screwed in pin that locates the drum on the hub, as with the pin fitted, the holes in the drum and shaft hub did not align. I left the pin out with ho problems.
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This is what the handbrake actuator looks like on my '98 LPT. Seems quite similar to yours.
Yours looks similar to what I'm expecting, less what I'm seeing in mine ! I'm wondering if the cable is also not quite right... Have ordered some bits and pieces to play around with so will update if any of them are useful


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I replaced the flatbar spacer for adjustable one as well. It was a reasonable fit, although I needed to remove some material to get them in place. Once fitted I could no longer use the little screwed in pin that locates the drum on the hub, as with the pin fitted, the holes in the drum and shaft hub did not align. I left the pin out with ho problems.
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All good to know, thanks !
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I'll be stripping my handbrake down later this week so we can compare notes

I think I may need a new right hand side cable but I'll wait until I get the car up in the air to see what the bracket on the axle is like as well
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