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Liber-T Peage Tag, best location on the XC90 ?

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Old Feb 27th, 2012, 20:35   #1
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Question Liber-T Peage Tag, best location on the XC90 ?

I have just received a Liber-T French Toll tag to help speed my way to the slopes next month and would appreciate any advice from XC90 owners who have used one.

The instructions say to affix it behind the windscreen rear-view mirror but this area has a black coating.

Has anyone fitted their tag in this area and if so has it worked OK or have you had to locate the tag elsewhere.

If anyone is interested I got my tag from www.saneftolling.co.uk (I've no connection to this company whatsoever) and whilst, unlike the Dartford Crossing tags, you don't get a discount you do save time on queuing time on your journey and don't have the hassle of searching for change or credit cards at each toll booth. A friend of mine used one and he reckons he saved almost an hour each way when travelling to the South of France.

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Old Mar 14th, 2012, 18:29   #3
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hi
I have one of these and put it just under the black rain sensor, but it didnt work. perhaps its something to do with the solar glass?
in the end I had to hang it out of the window , then it works a treat, good luck!
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Old Mar 18th, 2012, 23:08   #4
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Took delivery of a Liber-t tag today & livened it up.
Went for a trawl about user problems and came up with this advice. Hope it helps:
I received my new shape mini-tag from Sanef last Wednesday. First opportunity to use it on Friday.

Not a promising start. Got to the first peage station from Calais, drove to the reserved "t" lane - no joy. Detached it from windscreen mount, tried waving it. Didn't work. Lots of scoffing French drivers making rude remarks as I reversed out ignominiously. Took a manual ticket, handed it in at the pay station at Junction 25 on the A16. However, the device then emitted an ear-splitting beep, almost as if it had decided to come to life. Had a chat with the pay station operator (it was a quiet day). His friendly advice is below.

After that, it was plain sailing all the way. Driving down towards La Rochelle on Saturday, I had a French driver actually jump out of his car and try to wave me away from the "t" lane on my approach. When the thing beeped and the gate opened, he was a little dumbfounded. An excellent result. The best entertainment is watching for the expressions of the locals expecting the idiot Brit driver to get trapped...and then the look of surprise when I drive away. However, not so good is watching tagless fellow Brits follow you into the lane and then get trapped...

Useful advice from the ticket booth guy:

1. Do not try to wave the tag around. It has to be in a fixed position. The old tags could be waved, but apparently the new mini-tags are more uni-directional. They will also not work if left on the dashboard.

2. Left side of the windscreen directly behind the rear-view mirror is the best place for mounting. If your car has the dotted pattern indicating the clear, wire-free area, place the mount there.

3. The mount can be detached and moved once it has been put in place. A flathead screwdriver will help to prise it away from the windscreen, but be careful.

Still investigating about the infra-red reflective coating on the glass. Will report back when I find anything

A Bonne Journey
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Took delivery of a Liber-t tag today & livened it up.
Went for a trawl about user problems and came up with this advice. Hope it helps:
I received my new shape mini-tag from Sanef last Wednesday. First opportunity to use it on Friday.

Not a promising start. Got to the first peage station from Calais, drove to the reserved "t" lane - no joy. Detached it from windscreen mount, tried waving it. Didn't work. Lots of scoffing French drivers making rude remarks as I reversed out ignominiously. Took a manual ticket, handed it in at the pay station at Junction 25 on the A16. However, the device then emitted an ear-splitting beep, almost as if it had decided to come to life. Had a chat with the pay station operator (it was a quiet day). His friendly advice is below.

After that, it was plain sailing all the way. Driving down towards La Rochelle on Saturday, I had a French driver actually jump out of his car and try to wave me away from the "t" lane on my approach. When the thing beeped and the gate opened, he was a little dumbfounded. An excellent result. The best entertainment is watching for the expressions of the locals expecting the idiot Brit driver to get trapped...and then the look of surprise when I drive away. However, not so good is watching tagless fellow Brits follow you into the lane and then get trapped...

Useful advice from the ticket booth guy:

1. Do not try to wave the tag around. It has to be in a fixed position. The old tags could be waved, but apparently the new mini-tags are more uni-directional. They will also not work if left on the dashboard.

2. Left side of the windscreen directly behind the rear-view mirror is the best place for mounting. If your car has the dotted pattern indicating the clear, wire-free area, place the mount there.

3. The mount can be detached and moved once it has been put in place. A flathead screwdriver will help to prise it away from the windscreen, but be careful.

Still investigating about the infra-red reflective coating on the glass. Will report back when I find anything

A Bonne Journey
Didn't see your reply until I had got back from my journey ...

My experience is that it worked 1st time 90% of the time and on the two occasions it didn't ( incidentally at the same Peage albeit travelling outbound then a week later inbound ) as soon as I detached it from the mount it worked.

Like you I mounted it at the top of the windscreen behind the passenger visor on the basis that if you drive a left hand drive car that would be the side it would normally go, and, I don't have to look at it ! There is also some dotted windscreen all along the top edge ...

Considering that 5 mins delay when travelling at 80mph means that by using the tag you are 6.66 miles further up the road than someone who has to stop and queue. For them to make up such a distance they would not only be exceeding the speed limit but also using significantly more fuel.

Can't say I had any foolish Brits try to follow me though a few 'locals' did wave their arms either in polite warning or with aggression expecting us to get stranded at the barrier with other cars queued up behind before we could escape. Obviously their concerns were unfounded.

To conclude, at the very top of the screen in front of the left front seat appears to be the best location, it saves significant time. The only downside is the initial setup cost and the fact that each toll is NOT discounted. Taking all this into account it is still in my opinion worth the cost.

Hope this helps anyone who might be considering getting a Liber-T tag.
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Old Jun 27th, 2012, 21:10   #6
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Hi I have been in email conversation with Sanef about where to position the tag on my V60 as there is no mottled area behind the rear view mirror. The City Safety sensor fills that area and I have an electric heated windscreen which stops the sensor working. Their reply was as follows:

The issue will be due to a heat reflective windscreen, the metallic coating on heat reflective screens blocks the signal to toll road tags. The mottled area is always free from metallic coatings, the tag must be placed in there to work.

I can see from the photos you have sent in that Volvo have not left any mottled area available for toll tags, you need to ask your dealer if you have a heat reflective screen.

If you do then you need to ask Volvo where in the car they advise the tag should be positioned so it can be read correctly as they have not left any mottled area available.,


Not a lot of help really, does anyone have any suggestions?
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Hi,

Just to let you know that the mottled area at the top of the windscreen border where I've placed the tag is probably less than 1cm wide.

Hope this is helpful by way of comparison to your screen.

Dave.
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Old Jul 16th, 2012, 00:32   #8
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Just back from France. Car behaved faultlessly down & back to the Dordogne. Despite driving the 500 odd miles in a day, I was amazed at how comfortable it was and good I felt at the end.
The best bit was using the LiberT tag. Travelling on Satudays the traffic was heavy especially approaching Paris, with cars 15/20 deep at the Peage. A quick nip into the T lane (usually empty) & straight through. Saved well over an hour overall.
Mounted unit just to the left of the mirror on the tinted glass strip. Worked every time without a problem! No, I dont have a heated screen.
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Hi I have been in email conversation with Sanef about where to position the tag on my V60 as there is no mottled area behind the rear view mirror. The City Safety sensor fills that area and I have an electric heated windscreen which stops the sensor working. Their reply was as follows:

The issue will be due to a heat reflective windscreen, the metallic coating on heat reflective screens blocks the signal to toll road tags. The mottled area is always free from metallic coatings, the tag must be placed in there to work.

I can see from the photos you have sent in that Volvo have not left any mottled area available for toll tags, you need to ask your dealer if you have a heat reflective screen.

If you do then you need to ask Volvo where in the car they advise the tag should be positioned so it can be read correctly as they have not left any mottled area available.,


Not a lot of help really, does anyone have any suggestions?
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I have also been in discussion with SANEF regarding my XC60, also with city safe. They have said to mount it on the black plastic trim behind the city safe camera. has anyone else tried this?
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Old Mar 12th, 2013, 15:17   #10
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I've also just bought a tag from sanef tolling uk. They have told me that it will work if stuck on the black plastic rain sensor cover behind the rear view mirror. Has anyone tried this?
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