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Old Jul 12th, 2010, 17:53   #11
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provided you remove aforementioned yuck asap it should not get a stain on paint work,(mind you youve got to be bloody quick ,i think these little perishers must drink battery acid)
Yeah i normally try to remove the bloody bird shtuff asap. Thing is, everytime i cleaned it off this black car, its much more noticeable than other cars i've had. The stain actually appears to be underneath the top coat/laquar?[apologies for the spelling, i'm a thick trucker]
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yes prepare for opening pandora's box! there's a lot of stuff you can buy, but really, a good cleaning method, and quarterly wax or sealant should keep it looking fantastic.

what i found with my old car was that if you're happy with a slightly dirty car, then you won't worry about it at all - if you want it looking really nice, it takes regular work.

So for 4 years mine was filthy, but low maintenance. then i suddenly cleaned it and thought "wow - that actually looks really good! maybe i'll try and keep it that way". It's then that you notice the imperfections, and start trying to remove them all.

sold that car at the weekend - and now have a blank canvas to work on - to try and keep looking its best.

(this is how it ended up - pretty pleased to be honest)




(sorry shouldn't post other makes of car on here )

As a guide for recommended polishes, pads, bit of theory etc, you have everything you need in that link above, or it's summarised in this PDF i think
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Old Jul 12th, 2010, 18:09   #13
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Yeah i normally try to remove the bloody bird shtuff asap. Thing is, everytime i cleaned it off this black car, its much more noticeable than other cars i've had. The stain actually appears to be underneath the top coat/laquar?[apologies for the spelling, i'm a thick trucker]
that 'etching' that you refer to is quite common. doesn't seem to make any difference how quickly you get the mess off (unless you're literally there whilst it's still wet!), it's a chemical damage to the paint.

It almost certainly is damage to the clearcoat, but very very fine so that you can't feel it with your nail. I've had some, and they've polished out.

it is possible for it to permeate under the clearcoat, but as far as i'm aware, there's not really any product that will protect against that. a thick layer of wax/sealant is ultra thin, even compared to clearcoat/lacquer - so it won't really do much to prevent damage of this kind...
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yes prepare for opening pandora's box! there's a lot of stuff you can buy, but really, a good cleaning method, and quarterly wax or sealant should keep it looking fantastic.

what i found with my old car was that if you're happy with a slightly dirty car, then you won't worry about it at all - if you want it looking really nice, it takes regular work.

So for 4 years mine was filthy, but low maintenance. then i suddenly cleaned it and thought "wow - that actually looks really good! maybe i'll try and keep it that way". It's then that you notice the imperfections, and start trying to remove them all.

sold that car at the weekend - and now have a blank canvas to work on - to try and keep looking its best.

(this is how it ended up - pretty pleased to be honest)




(sorry shouldn't post other makes of car on here )

As a guide for recommended polishes, pads, bit of theory etc, you have everything you need in that link above, or it's summarised in this PDF i think


I don't care if it's nice and shiny, get that German thing off this forum!

There is far too much of this going on.

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yes prepare for opening pandora's box! there's a lot of stuff you can buy, but really, a good cleaning method, and quarterly wax or sealant should keep it looking fantastic.

what i found with my old car was that if you're happy with a slightly dirty car, then you won't worry about it at all - if you want it looking really nice, it takes regular work.

So for 4 years mine was filthy, but low maintenance. then i suddenly cleaned it and thought "wow - that actually looks really good! maybe i'll try and keep it that way". It's then that you notice the imperfections, and start trying to remove them all.

sold that car at the weekend - and now have a blank canvas to work on - to try and keep looking its best.

(this is how it ended up - pretty pleased to be honest)

(sorry shouldn't post other makes of car on here )

As a guide for recommended polishes, pads, bit of theory etc, you have everything you need in that link above, or it's summarised in this PDF i think
To be fair when it comes to washing a car I'm a pretty lazy basxxxx but I would kindly pay for that result. The finish looks fantastic.
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I don't care if it's nice and shiny, get that German thing off this forum!

There is far too much of this going on.

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quite aggree,even if it is nice and shiny,it aint volvo
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yes prepare for opening pandora's box! there's a lot of stuff you can buy, but really, a good cleaning method, and quarterly wax or sealant should keep it looking fantastic.

what i found with my old car was that if you're happy with a slightly dirty car, then you won't worry about it at all - if you want it looking really nice, it takes regular work.

So for 4 years mine was filthy, but low maintenance. then i suddenly cleaned it and thought "wow - that actually looks really good! maybe i'll try and keep it that way". It's then that you notice the imperfections, and start trying to remove them all.

sold that car at the weekend - and now have a blank canvas to work on - to try and keep looking its best.

(this is how it ended up - pretty pleased to be honest)




(sorry shouldn't post other makes of car on here )

As a guide for recommended polishes, pads, bit of theory etc, you have everything you need in that link above, or it's summarised in this PDF i think


Thanks for the info.

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quite aggree,even if it is nice and shiny,it aint volvo
you what? don't know what you're talking about

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Lol. Nicely Photo shopped.
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Yeah i normally try to remove the bloody bird shtuff asap. Thing is, everytime i cleaned it off this black car, its much more noticeable than other cars i've had. The stain actually appears to be underneath the top coat/laquar?[apologies for the spelling, i'm a thick trucker]
I had exactly this happen to my black sapphire paintwork last week. The bird sh.. was only on for a few hours before I washed it off. But then I noticed this 'etched' stain that appeared to be underneath the top coat, and more gentle washing made no difference. I was away from home at the time and couldn't do anything other than inside. Anyway, the car was parked out in the hot sun and two days later when I looked for the stain it was GONE! I've read elsewhere about heat gun treatments so I'm not sure if the hot sun had anything to do with it. Whatever it was, I'm again!!!
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