Ford Kuga security

[The Thong]

Yeah Yeah…. I’ve mentioned the F Word ;D

One of my neighbours have a 2019 Ford Kuga and it’s been robbed twice now outside their house. It has the keyless entry function and they keep their key in a faraday pouch. Is there a weak point on the security on these that makes them easy to get into?? I’m doing a bit of investigation because I have a Transit Connect of the same year that also has keyless entry so I’m assuming it’ll be the same system. Wanna preempt any possible weakness so my van doesn’t get robbed.

TT

[Familyman 90]

Ford keys from 2019 go to sleep if they are not moved for 30 seconds, so they cannot be compromised by using a scanner and signal booster - the key remains totally inert until physically picked up and moved again.

Either your neighbour has one of the older cars, or they're jacking the car via the OBD port.

The faraday pouches don't work, more than one test by magazines and tv programmes shows that they provide little impediment to having the signal boosted. Ine of my neighbours is a copper and he also tells me that cars still go walkies with the keys in a pouch.

I think after having had the car half inched the first time id have gone for a Disklok or somesuch - that'll hold them up for a lot longer, and theyll make a helluva racket trying.

[The Thong]

Originally Posted by Familyman 90

Ford keys from 2019 go to sleep if they are not moved for 30 seconds, so they cannot be compromised by using a scanner and signal booster - the key remains totally inert until physically picked up and moved again.

Either your neighbour has one of the older cars, or they're jacking the car via the OBD port.

The faraday pouches don't work, more than one test by magazines and tv programmes shows that they provide little impediment to having the signal boosted. Ine of my neighbours is a copper and he also tells me that cars still go walkies with the keys in a pouch.

I think after having had the car half inched the first time id have gone for a Disklok or somesuch - that'll hold them up for a lot longer, and theyll make a helluva racket trying.

That’s interesting about the Faraday pouches, I thought they were the answer.

[Cull06]

Originally Posted by The Thong

That’s interesting about the Faraday pouches, I thought they were the answer.

Nah mine always used to stop working after 4-6 months. Have to keep trying them regularly because one day you’ll be able to open the car even with the key in the pouch.

Faraday box I found lasted indefinitely.

[Fika]

I'm no carsec pro but if the key has been spoofed then it may already be too late and Kuga folk may be victims of the same gang that stored the key or maybe their keys are transmitting more often than it should.

Makes me glad I only buy old bangers, I was never fond of keyless entry on the newer cars and my wife's Toyota being keyless meant the physical key never got used and when the car battery died we couldn't enter the car as internals of the door lock had jammed (no lube coul fix it).

When we start buying newer cars and they have keyless, they're going to be covered with RF blocking material and placed farther from the front door of the house.

[andy_d]

isnt the word "FORD" on the boot of the kuga it security enough ?
(that IS if the car thieves can Read,,,)

as for your tranny


Big yellow Boot for it, and Do Not forget you fitted it

[Ian21401]

I am an oldie with an old car. I can remember when we had to fit Krooklocks between the clutch pedal and the steering wheel (I still have two of them lying in the garage.) or a steering wheel disc. ( huge cumbersome thing which had to be stored somewhere when using the car.)
I cannot understand the point of “keyless entry” other than someone thought it was a clever idea so why not do it. It is utterly pointless. We have keys for other things so what is the point of having keyless entry into our cars?

[Dippydog]

Knew of a customer at our local Ford dealer who bought a Mondeo with the remote fob type key[where you have to press the button on the fob to lock/unlock the car]he traded it in after three months against another Mondeo with "keyless" entry so he didn't have to bother taking the key out his pocket to lock/unlock the car!!!

[volvo always]

Only ever had one car with keyless entry.

A 2006 Lexus IS 220D. Used to park my Volvo next to it and generally unlocked the Lexus when I didn't want to while getting into the Volvo. Had keys on Volvo/House keyring, so expected until I had to keep them seperate!

My Toyota Auris needs the fob to unlock but keyless start button.

One thing I find annoying is if you just open the drivers door from inside it doesn't automatically unlock the other doors like my 1996 Volvo 940. So I then go to get stuff out and other doors all locked. Need to use fob or press door button in drivers switch pack.

Safety I prefer the Volvo method as could set rear doors on child locks if you have children .

James.

[The Thong]

I had a Mondy Titanium X Sport with keyless entry. It was a fun novelty fir a while but I kept leaving my fob in the car at Petrol stations. I’m glad to say my 60 has a fob that acts as a key, I’ll stick with that for now.

TT