Swapping Over,

frazz · Jun 13th, 2016, 15:14

Hi,, been a 1997 V70 'R' AWD AUTO driver for the past 9 yrs,,thinking of maybe going for a S40 2.0 D R-DESIGN AUTO?,,any hints/tips would be appreciated,,,main reason is the MPG,,,thnx,,

StatusRed · Jun 13th, 2016, 15:20

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Originally Posted by frazz

Hi,, been a 1997 V70 'R' AWD AUTO driver for the past 9 yrs,,thinking of maybe going for a S40 2.0 D R-DESIGN AUTO?,,any hints/tips would be appreciated,,,main reason is the MPG,,,thnx,,

Do you do many miles? Long trips or town driving etc..?

frazz · Jun 13th, 2016, 15:57

Hi, no don't do much mileage, mostly town with the odd 120 mile round trip?,,

daveyonthemove · Jun 13th, 2016, 17:02

You are better off avoiding diesel's if your mileage is low as you probably won't do enough long journeys to regenerate the DPF and that will eventually clog up and cost you £1300+ to put right.

StatusRed · Jun 14th, 2016, 08:51

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Originally Posted by frazz

Hi, no don't do much mileage, mostly town with the odd 120 mile round trip?,,

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Originally Posted by daveyonthemove

You are better off avoiding diesel's if your mileage is low as you probably won't do enough long journeys to regenerate the DPF and that will eventually clog up and cost you £1300+ to put right.

Plus servicing diesels costs more so you won't end up seeing any benefit from the extra mpg gain.

Welton · Jun 14th, 2016, 15:05

Don't expect the S40 to be of better quality than your 1997 car.

Suspension and air-con issues are very common but on the plus side electrical systems and petrol engines are very robust and the cars don't suffer from rust.

The driving experience with the standard car leaves a lot to be desired; from lack of steering feel to outright discomfort at low speeds with its choppy suspension. Also wheel alignment is very important in terms of tire wear and the cars feel on the road.

They're not bad cars but do need effort and expense to keep them 'right' for enjoyable ownership.

dme123 · Jun 14th, 2016, 18:27

Gosh what a horrible shock it would be to go from a V70R to an S40 with a Ford 4 pot diesel rattler.

THe S40 will obviously feel much more modern to drive, but as suggested I'd get a petrol for your usage and I'd be looking at the T5 or even 2.4i if you care at all about the powertrain of your car being interesting. The Low Pressure Turbo 2.5 they badge as a T5 doesn't deliver the power as entertainingly as the High Pressure Turbo engine in your R but it's a good engine none the less

If you gave me the choice of a V70R or any S40 though I know which I would choose! Any concerns over reliability of an S40 vs your V70 will be totally offset by it's much younger age. Over the next 5 years I'd expect less trouble from the much younger S40.

domhart10 · Jun 15th, 2016, 11:08

yeh i would look straight towards the petrols and if your after the power etc ... its definitely worth getting the T5

paddyred · Jun 15th, 2016, 11:42

If you do eventually get a s40 diesel then get the DPF gutted and egr blocked. I have a v50 with no DPF and a blanked egr. I use it for nothing but short trips with no issue whatsoever. The economy equipment fitted to the diesel is what lets it down. If you service it yourself then service costs are fine. Mine costs roughly £70 a year and I do all the filters (excl fuel) every time and use castrol magnatec.

If you can get your hands on a T5 though you would probably be better off, more power and a smoother engine etc.

Electrics on these aren't an issue unless your unlucky. Have had mine since 2009 and havent had anything fail yet.

frazz · Jun 15th, 2016, 17:05

Thanx all,, got a feelin the 'R' is gonna stay,,maybe get a 40T5 for the missus,,,

Jun 13th, 2016, 15:14	#1
frazz Master Member Last Online: Jan 30th, 2022 14:38 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buckie	Swapping Over, Hi,, been a 1997 V70 'R' AWD AUTO driver for the past 9 yrs,,thinking of maybe going for a S40 2.0 D R-DESIGN AUTO?,,any hints/tips would be appreciated,,,main reason is the MPG,,,thnx,,

Jun 14th, 2016, 15:05	#6
Welton Premier Member Last Online: Sep 14th, 2021 17:03 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Market Harborough	Don't expect the S40 to be of better quality than your 1997 car. Suspension and air-con issues are very common but on the plus side electrical systems and petrol engines are very robust and the cars don't suffer from rust. The driving experience with the standard car leaves a lot to be desired; from lack of steering feel to outright discomfort at low speeds with its choppy suspension. Also wheel alignment is very important in terms of tire wear and the cars feel on the road. They're not bad cars but do need effort and expense to keep them 'right' for enjoyable ownership. __________________ 2005 S40 T5 SE - Manual. Bilstein B4's. (For Sale) 2010 Citroen C4 1.6 HDi (bizarre Gearbox model). 2010 Renault Twingo (refreshingly simple) 2018 Infiniti Q30 1.6T Business Executive (what's this button do?)

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dme123 Master Member Last Online: Jan 17th, 2023 10:06 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Cardiff	Gosh what a horrible shock it would be to go from a V70R to an S40 with a Ford 4 pot diesel rattler. THe S40 will obviously feel much more modern to drive, but as suggested I'd get a petrol for your usage and I'd be looking at the T5 or even 2.4i if you care at all about the powertrain of your car being interesting. The Low Pressure Turbo 2.5 they badge as a T5 doesn't deliver the power as entertainingly as the High Pressure Turbo engine in your R but it's a good engine none the less If you gave me the choice of a V70R or any S40 though I know which I would choose! Any concerns over reliability of an S40 vs your V70 will be totally offset by it's much younger age. Over the next 5 years I'd expect less trouble from the much younger S40. __________________ 2016 XC60 D5 SE Lux Manual 2008 C70 D5 SE Lux Manual 2004 V70 T5 SE Geartronic 2003 C70 T5 GT Manual

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paddyred Master Member Last Online: Jul 31st, 2021 13:08 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Exeter	If you do eventually get a s40 diesel then get the DPF gutted and egr blocked. I have a v50 with no DPF and a blanked egr. I use it for nothing but short trips with no issue whatsoever. The economy equipment fitted to the diesel is what lets it down. If you service it yourself then service costs are fine. Mine costs roughly £70 a year and I do all the filters (excl fuel) every time and use castrol magnatec. If you can get your hands on a T5 though you would probably be better off, more power and a smoother engine etc. Electrics on these aren't an issue unless your unlucky. Have had mine since 2009 and havent had anything fail yet. __________________ Wax On Wax Off!

Jun 13th, 2016, 15:57	#3
frazz Master Member Last Online: Jan 30th, 2022 14:38 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buckie	Hi, no don't do much mileage, mostly town with the odd 120 mile round trip?,,

Jun 13th, 2016, 17:02	#4
daveyonthemove Senior Member Last Online: Oct 11th, 2017 19:23 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Carterton	You are better off avoiding diesel's if your mileage is low as you probably won't do enough long journeys to regenerate the DPF and that will eventually clog up and cost you £1300+ to put right.

Jun 15th, 2016, 17:05	#10
frazz Master Member Last Online: Jan 30th, 2022 14:38 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buckie	Thanx all,, got a feelin the 'R' is gonna stay,,maybe get a 40T5 for the missus,,,

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