Seriously?

[loki_the_glt]

Originally Posted by Laird Scooby

Potentially less electrickery as well as the RB has electronic ignition and (as there's no mention of it) i presume this one is still on points and condensor.

Suitable for use in a post-EMP blast situation!

Probably TSZ-2 breakerless as it's got a B21E engine so not EMP-proof.

[Laird Scooby]

Originally Posted by loki_the_glt

Probably TSZ-2 breakerless as it's got a B21E engine so not EMP-proof.

It could be, depends whether Volvo were early adopters of the Hall Effect distributor. Would have to check the exact spec or maybe a decent underbonnet pic would show.

[Othen]

Originally Posted by Moomoo

Item number : 265605264981 , 244 2.1 GLE . UNDER CLASSIC CARS.

I will get my friend to show me how to do links .

Andrew.

Originally Posted by Laird Scooby

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265605264981

That be the wee beastie then, very similar to the RB!

As we discussed, the green motor car is quite similar to the RB. It is a GLE and so will have the einspritzen and so maybe a bit more power, but on a 40 year old motor car more complexity isn't always a good thing. The specifications are similar otherwise: both have the metallic paint and sunroof, the leather and velour were a no cost option either way. It looks like someone has removed the headlamp wipers from the GLE and it has steel wheels (which were standard back in the day, but I think a lot of new GLE owners would have opted for the Virgo alloy wheel option like the RB).

I think the green GLE is really nice; £5,000 seems a lot, but I suppose that is just the price for a good, interesting historic motor car, and the RB would be worth very much the same.

:-)

[nemesisthewarlock]

Originally Posted by Othen

... I agree Dave; Elvis, Michael Jackson and Lord Lucan all shop at our local Aldi...

:-)

Hang on a minute the shop in mine too!

Coincidence? I don't think so.. Consprecy!!

[Laird Scooby]

Originally Posted by Othen

It is a GLE and so will have the einspritzen and so maybe a bit more power, but on a 40 year old motor car more complexity isn't always a good thing.

:-)

If memory serves correctly Alan, it has ~20% more power (123bhp comes to mind but not certain) and the K-Jetronic mechanical injection is no more complicated than the carb you have on the RB, in fact it might even be more simple.

[Othen]

Originally Posted by nemesisthewarlock

Hang on a minute the shop in mine too!

Coincidence? I don't think so.. Conspiracy!!

Spooky!

[Othen]

Originally Posted by Othen

As we have discussed previously (before Xmas) this one is hard to value. On the plus side it is an historic vehicle, which adds 50-100% to the value - and it is a very early motor car. The negatives are that it is LHD, it doesn't have its original motor and it is pretty scruffy inside and out. The fact it is a 242 is difficult to assess: that makes it rare here in the UK (but not rare at all elsewhere, the 242 was just a cheap version of the 244 in other markets) and so something of a curiosity - but I don't know whether that adds or detracts from its value.

The dealer is obviously having trouble selling it: 4 months on and he/she is still hawking it around on public auction sites. His/her problem is the market for this motor car will be tiny: he is trying to sell a down-market, non-original, LHD motor car in slightly poor condition at a large premium because it wasn't sold in the UK and so has a curiosity value. There probably aren't more than 10 punters willing to pay a curiosity premium for an otherwise cooking motor car in the UK.

It will be interesting to see what it makes at public auction (shill bidding aside). My guess is that it will not make its reserve and it will go through the strainer a few more times.

:-)

Exactly as predicted… the 242 didn’t receive any more bids than the £3,600 from several days ago (that I suspected was a shill bid anyway) and so didn’t make it reserve.

We may see it advertised several more times before the dealer realises it isn’t worth so much due to the tiny market,

Alan

[Laird Scooby]

Originally Posted by Othen

Exactly as predicted… the 242 didn’t receive any more bids than the £3,600 from several days ago (that I suspected was a shill bid anyway) and so didn’t make it reserve.

We may see it advertised several more times before the dealer realises it isn’t worth so much due to the tiny market,

Alan

I seem to recall that was about what the current seller paid for it originally Alan?

[Othen]

Originally Posted by Laird Scooby

I seem to recall that was about what the current seller paid for it originally Alan?

My note above (about a week ago) says it changed hands for £4,300 Dave, I'm not sure whether that was just from memory or whether I bothered to look it up though. If that was the case the dealer is standing on a substantial loss after hawking the motor car around for 4 months.

This motor car is a bit hard to value because the potential market is so small. If I compare it to the RB then I think it has to be worth a bit less (LHD, non-original motor, needs some welding and plenty of redecoration), so if the RB is at about £5,000 that puts is somewhere around 4 grand I should think. The acid test of value for most things is the public auction, and the eBay market has spoken: it is only worth £3,500 (and that may have included a bit of shill bidding).

I can't bring myself to feel sorry for the dealer selling the motor car, he/she has been caught out profiteering.

:-)

[Moomoo]

Originally Posted by Othen

My note above (about a week ago) says it changed hands for £4,300 Dave, I'm not sure whether that was just from memory or whether I bothered to look it up though. If that was the case the dealer is standing on a substantial loss after hawking the motor car around for 4 months.

This motor car is a bit hard to value because the potential market is so small. If I compare it to the RB then I think it has to be worth a bit less (LHD, non-original motor, needs some welding and plenty of redecoration), so if the RB is at about £5,000 that puts is somewhere around 4 grand I should think. The acid test of value for most things is the public auction, and the eBay market has spoken: it is only worth £3,500 (and that may have included a bit of shill bidding).



I can't bring myself to feel sorry for the dealer selling the motor car, he/she has been caught out profiteering.

:-)

He gambled and lost!

He’ll have to take it on the chin if a sucker can’t be found!😱