V90 grip

wheelnut · May 21st, 2021, 08:20

Has anyone else experienced a lack of traction in a V90 (2wd D4 R Design) when starting on steep hills?
This has happened to me on a few occasions, where, for example, to negotiate a steep junction, I have had to do a three point turn and the wheels just spin.
I have tried using the paddles to select a lower gear, but only by persevering, adjusting steering angle and, where possible having a bit of a run at it, have I been able to get moving.
Admittedly this doesn’t happen often (once in Wales and a few times in rural Cornwall), but it has had me concerned that I would be stuck!
Any tips?

MikeGMT · May 21st, 2021, 08:45

Take your diver boots off.

On a serious note have you tried manually selecting 2nd. Bit less torque for the tyres to deal with. You mentioned using the paddles to select a 'lower gear', did you mean a higher gear? Does this happen in damp greasy conditions or when the road is completely dry. D4 has plenty of torque so should easily pull away on a incline in 2nd gear. Guessing the tyres still have good tread on them and at the right pressure. If you have the big wheel, wide tyre combo could possibly be a reason.

Fursty Ferret · May 21st, 2021, 10:35

Welcome to summer tyres on cold wet roads.

MCV60 · May 21st, 2021, 10:43

My previous Michelin Primacy tyres on the V90 were the worst for this. Up to getting a new car recently, I've had Michelin all season installed. No such issues with those.

Boatie · May 21st, 2021, 18:16

I could get the wheels of my V90 D4 (Michelin Primacy) to spin at the drop of a hat. My V70 D3 (Contisport 3) was even worse and I'm no boy racer. My present V90 D5 AWD is fine.

roundyuk · May 21st, 2021, 20:20

V90 has a fair amount of weight over the back axle I would imagine too, even more accentuated on an incline.

Select 2nd or 3rd to start, squeeeeeeeeeze :-D

Also, try waiting until the hill hold lets off maybe, perhaps its holding on too much? (Not sure if you can turn it off)

VOLVOL0VER · May 21st, 2021, 20:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeGMT

Take your diver boots off.

On a serious note have you tried manually selecting 2nd. Bit less torque for the tyres to deal with. You mentioned using the paddles to select a 'lower gear', did you mean a higher gear? Does this happen in damp greasy conditions or when the road is completely dry. D4 has plenty of torque so should easily pull away on a incline in 2nd gear. Guessing the tyres still have good tread on them and at the right pressure. If you have the big wheel, wide tyre combo could possibly be a reason.

I agree with you on that. And why not select driver mode Off- Road??

VOLVOL0VER · May 21st, 2021, 20:37

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Originally Posted by MCV60

My previous Michelin Primacy tyres on the V90 were the worst for this. Up to getting a new car recently, I've had Michelin all season installed. No such issues with those.

Yes. Michelin all season are good. And also Michelin Latitude Sport 3 255/45 R20 XL VOL ACOUSTIC. Good grip on those tyres. Even knowing they are summer tyres. But they're good even on wet roads and cold wet weather.

wheelnut · May 21st, 2021, 22:07

Thanks for the comments. I was being very delicate with my right foot! The car is on standard 18” wheels with new Pirelli volvo specific tyres (as supplied on it from new). These tyres have only done about 2000 miles.

The AWD version would be fine, but it does feel as though, with summer tyres, there is not enough weight over the front wheels.

I will try holding it in 2nd next time using the gearshift rather than trying to use the paddles.

wheelnut · May 21st, 2021, 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOLVOL0VER

I agree with you on that. And why not select driver mode Off- Road??

There is no such mode on a V90.

May 21st, 2021, 08:20	#1
wheelnut Senior Member Last Online: Nov 15th, 2023 22:41 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Market Harborough	V90 grip Has anyone else experienced a lack of traction in a V90 (2wd D4 R Design) when starting on steep hills? This has happened to me on a few occasions, where, for example, to negotiate a steep junction, I have had to do a three point turn and the wheels just spin. I have tried using the paddles to select a lower gear, but only by persevering, adjusting steering angle and, where possible having a bit of a run at it, have I been able to get moving. Admittedly this doesn’t happen often (once in Wales and a few times in rural Cornwall), but it has had me concerned that I would be stuck! Any tips? __________________ 2015 XC60 D4 R Des Lux, WP, Pano, Towbar, HK sound, Power Blue. 2019 V90 D4 R Des, Xenium, Polestar, Bursting Blue. 2016 V70 D3SE Lux, 2012 V70 Drive SE Lux, 2000 V70 SE2.4: 2000 V40 1.8SE: 1997 S70 2.0SE Garage - Mercedes SLK & Honda CM400T

May 21st, 2021, 08:45	#2
MikeGMT VOC Member Last Online: May 10th, 2024 20:30 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Kingston upon Hull, E.Yorks.	Take your diver boots off. On a serious note have you tried manually selecting 2nd. Bit less torque for the tyres to deal with. You mentioned using the paddles to select a 'lower gear', did you mean a higher gear? Does this happen in damp greasy conditions or when the road is completely dry. D4 has plenty of torque so should easily pull away on a incline in 2nd gear. Guessing the tyres still have good tread on them and at the right pressure. If you have the big wheel, wide tyre combo could possibly be a reason. __________________ Volvo V90 D4 CC Pro : Osmium Grey : P* ____________________ It’s a cold day in Wagga Wagga ____________________ Who Knocks the Knockerupper Up Last edited by MikeGMT; May 21st, 2021 at 09:03.

May 21st, 2021, 10:43	#4
MCV60 Master Member Last Online: Today 16:33 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: .	My previous Michelin Primacy tyres on the V90 were the worst for this. Up to getting a new car recently, I've had Michelin all season installed. No such issues with those. __________________ 2021 B4 V90 RDesign

May 21st, 2021, 18:16	#5
Boatie Master Member Last Online: May 10th, 2024 11:09 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Watford	I could get the wheels of my V90 D4 (Michelin Primacy) to spin at the drop of a hat. My V70 D3 (Contisport 3) was even worse and I'm no boy racer. My present V90 D5 AWD is fine. __________________ V90 R Design 2019my

May 21st, 2021, 20:20	#6
roundyuk Senior Member Last Online: May 27th, 2022 10:55 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Hampshire	V90 has a fair amount of weight over the back axle I would imagine too, even more accentuated on an incline. Select 2nd or 3rd to start, squeeeeeeeeeze :-D Also, try waiting until the hill hold lets off maybe, perhaps its holding on too much? (Not sure if you can turn it off) __________________ —————— MY19 V60 D4 Momentum Pro

May 21st, 2021, 10:35	#3
Fursty Ferret Senior Member Last Online: Feb 26th, 2024 16:44 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Manchester	Welcome to summer tyres on cold wet roads.

May 21st, 2021, 22:07	#9
wheelnut Senior Member Last Online: Nov 15th, 2023 22:41 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Market Harborough	Thanks for the comments. I was being very delicate with my right foot! The car is on standard 18” wheels with new Pirelli volvo specific tyres (as supplied on it from new). These tyres have only done about 2000 miles. The AWD version would be fine, but it does feel as though, with summer tyres, there is not enough weight over the front wheels. I will try holding it in 2nd next time using the gearshift rather than trying to use the paddles. __________________ 2015 XC60 D4 R Des Lux, WP, Pano, Towbar, HK sound, Power Blue. 2019 V90 D4 R Des, Xenium, Polestar, Bursting Blue. 2016 V70 D3SE Lux, 2012 V70 Drive SE Lux, 2000 V70 SE2.4: 2000 V40 1.8SE: 1997 S70 2.0SE Garage - Mercedes SLK & Honda CM400T

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