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V40 Stop Start Service and no Front wipers (again!)

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Old Jan 12th, 2022, 17:36   #1
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Hi all,

New to the forum, but an old time forum user (used to run a supra forum and have spent many hours on various car forums in the past!)

A bit of background: My other half has had a 2012 Volvo V40 for about three years and recently it's all started to go wrong. Started with "gearbox noises" which I thought was the release bearing, but on removing the gearbox it was the input shaft bearing, rebuild the gearbox and put it together but found once back on the road we had new electrical issues.
I wasn't involved in the gearbox removing and replacing, but the rebuild was a team effort that I was involved with. I trust the guy that removed and refitted the gearbox (brother in law) and he says apart from disconnecting the battery (2 weeks), the car wasn't jump started, charged, earths looked ok etc. This shouldn't be related, but worth mentioning.

The car drives perfectly now apart from...

On start up there is a dash message saying "Stop Start Service required" and the system is disabled, the reason in the menu is "battery charging". - we have also noticed that the front windscreen wipers don't work. Although this seems highly odd, from forum searching and googling it is not uncommon for this model.

Reading on the forum it looked like it may be an issue with the support battery, which I didn't know the car had. I replaced the main battery within the last couple of years, reset the BMS and all was well (Start stop didn't work when we first got it, new battery and reset sorted that). I replaced the support battery (AGM type as suggested YAUSA one from Halfords) checked that the main battery was fully charged via trickle charge, reset the BMS using the "cheat code" of light switches until the battery light flashed three times and was disappointed to see that there was no change. the original Volvo aux battery removed actually was holding a charge so I don't think that was the issue but I was so "committed" after half removing the bumper I decided to fit the new one.

Further googling showed a video and a Volvo service bulletin saying turn the ignition on, disconnect the BMS sensor wait then reconnect. do this the wipers armed! but on reconnecting ran constantly, even with the car locked.

Currently the car isn't really useable, - if I disconnect the BMS sensor the wipers work as usual, stop start doesn't, obviously.. but I don't want to run the car like that in case the BMS over / undercharged the battery (I'm not sure how much that manages vs plain old fashioned alternator regulation. The other half also reported the clock keeps getting reset when she starts.

I don't have VIDA, but fault codes logged and clear to immediately return are:
  • B139F(01) - Main battery relay-general electrical failure short to ground
  • B129A(88) - invalid data from the Driver Side Windshield Wiper Motor over the LIN
  • B10AD(96) -Rain Sensor Value of Signal Protection Calculation Incorrect.
  • U1007(00) - Lost communication With Battery Monitoring Sensor 'A'.
  • I've reset the BMS multiple times by using the light flashing technique.
  • I've reset by unplugging the sensor with the ignition on.
  • I've checked fuses (wipers were all ok, as are the larger ones on the battery and above the fuse box)
  • Checked the aux battery charge fuse - also passed a voltmeter gets a decent voltage (its new!)
  • I've trickle charged the main battery then reset the BMS
  • I've reset then left it locked overnight to allow full system shut down
  • Main battery presumed good as sub 2 years old and shows over 12v after being parked overnight, 14.4v with the engine running.


I'm a loss where to go from here, any ideas or experience please? I am wondering if it is the BMS sensor itself (or the wiring to it, which looks fine). I've ordered a used one with replacement earth straps to swap over and see if it makes a difference.

Is there away to test the sensor off the car? (can't see anything on google)

Thanks in advance!

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Old Jan 12th, 2022, 22:04   #2
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I have a V40 now too and mine disables the stop start if the battery isn't fully charged. Generally if it has been sat to the week or so.

The wipers are odd and not sure where to go from there but wonder if something got dislodged or disconnected when they were doing the gearbox?

One thing I have learnt from working on my various Volvo's has been they are super sensitive when it comes to the battery. I was doing some work on my old C30 last year and the battery went flat. The number of faults I got was crazy. I ended up getting a dice unit and vida from a forum member and also had to send off the srs module for a reset to fix it.
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Good news!

The "new to me" BMS sensor cured it all. It's a shame I didn't try that before replacing the pain-to-get-at support battery.

Used sensor was 25 off Ebay, and a 5 minute fit.

Ran another BMS reset, cleared the archive codes. wipers now work, stop start reports to be online.

Happy Mrs.

Edit: it's also worth noting that even with a dead BMS sensor, the main battery does seem to charge and maintain charge via alternator regulation .. good to know.
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Great news, thanks for sharing the outcome
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Good news!

The "new to me" BMS sensor cured it all. It's a shame I didn't try that before replacing the pain-to-get-at support battery.

Used sensor was 25 off Ebay, and a 5 minute fit.

Ran another BMS reset, cleared the archive codes. wipers now work, stop start reports to be online.

Happy Mrs.

Edit: it's also worth noting that even with a dead BMS sensor, the main battery does seem to charge and maintain charge via alternator regulation .. good to know.
Thank you so much for documenting this,we have had 2 different inde garages not know/misinform about the problem and today I disconnected the BMS sensor and now the wipers work again, so I think we have found the solution.

Was booked in at the main Volvo dealer near me - 165 per hour!!!
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