S60 Stereo/DVD: (and V70) - Software Driven Electronics - eBay users beware!

[d2k]

Originally Posted by v8disco

Mine didnt. The steering wheel controls dont work, but apart from that its perfect. I cant imagine that Volvo would put a genuine/non genuine radio flag in the software.

When I did mine, I did first try and get an auto electrician to do it who refused on the basis that it wasnt possible on Volvos, so clearly there is an air of mystery about them, but once you rip them apart, its little different than any other car.

Attached are a couple of pics

how much you pay for those headrests..???, were they a pig to install..??

im gonna be changing the 803 HU for a double din TV unit soon, as the CD's skip constantly with the 803 unit... its bloody annoying!!

but id like screens for the kids in the back.

[747727]

Originally Posted by RoyMacDonald

Yes, definatly. You can't fit a second hand Volvo radio safely but you can have the ecu programed to accept a none Volvo aftermarket radio. The Volvo radio's are very good though.

No point in designing a security system that can be overidden is there?

Thats a shame. It may be classed as a security system but it seems more like a way of making money as you cant use second hand items!! Not very eco friendly either! Ive heard the radios are good. I was only thinking of changing the radio if I got a s60 as I want one with a tape player not just a cd player but this wont be a problem on the c70's as they all have tape/cd players.

[RoyMacDonald]

Originally Posted by 747727

Thats a shame. It may be classed as a security system but it seems more like a way of making money as you cant use second hand items!! Not very eco friendly either! Ive heard the radios are good. I was only thinking of changing the radio if I got a s60 as I want one with a tape player not just a cd player but this wont be a problem on the c70's as they all have tape/cd players.

You could say it was more eco friendly as it means you have to repair the radio you have if it developes a fault. You can fit additional devices so you can connect pretty much anything. I have a 1TB hard drive and a 8Gb memory stick connected to mine. I'm contemplating getting an internet radio to add on at the moment.

[v8disco]

Originally Posted by d2k

how much you pay for those headrests..???, were they a pig to install..??

im gonna be changing the 803 HU for a double din TV unit soon, as the CD's skip constantly with the 803 unit... its bloody annoying!!

but id like screens for the kids in the back.

From memory, they were about 250 for the pair off Ebay. They were brand new from a Dealer getting rid of old stock. They fitted fine in the seats, but the wiring was a bit of a pain. I cut the plugs off and taped the cable ends to an old choke cable inner. I then threaded that down inside the seat and then made up a new loom to convert the cable ends to go into a rear AV distribution unit. This also has Freeview TV run into it and a volume/source controller on each rear trim panel so each rear passenger can select TV/DVD or Ipod and watch/listen independantly of the other.

Also, you do not need to tell the ECU that there is not a Volvo radio fitted.

[UKTech]

Hi all
I don't seem to remember signing anything that would allow Volvo to dissable everything in my car if I should do something to it, surely they can't render your car totally useless if you've tampered with something in YOUR vehicle.
I don't think it would be legal to do that, I can understand them refusing to deal with an item you've fitted but surely they can't render your vehicle useless.
Has anyone actually experienced this or is it all a mythe?
Can they render YOUR car useless?

UKTech

[RoyMacDonald]

Originally Posted by UKTech

Hi all
I don't seem to remember signing anything that would allow Volvo to dissable everything in my car if I should do something to it, surely they can't render your car totally useless if you've tampered with something in YOUR vehicle.
I don't think it would be legal to do that, I can understand them refusing to deal with an item you've fitted but surely they can't render your vehicle useless.
Has anyone actually experienced this or is it all a mythe?
Can they render YOUR car useless?

UKTech

It's part of the security system. You buy the car and get the security system as standard. You read all that small print when you signed the purchase agreement didn't you? ;-)

[UKTech]

Originally Posted by RoyMacDonald

It's part of the security system. You buy the car and get the security system as standard. You read all that small print when you signed the purchase agreement didn't you? ;-)

No, I didn't, I bought mine from a non Volvo dealer and nothing was mentioned and there's nothing in my sales agreement saying that Volvo could render my car useless if I done something to it that they didn't like.

Do you truthfully know anyone who this has happened to, even more, is there anyone else on this forum who can actually name people who this has happened to.

I await with interest to the answers.

Best regards

UKTech

[RoyMacDonald]

Originally Posted by UKTech

No, I didn't, I bought mine from a non Volvo dealer and nothing was mentioned and there's nothing in my sales agreement saying that Volvo could render my car useless if I done something to it that they didn't like.

Do you truthfully know anyone who this has happened to, even more, is there anyone else on this forum who can actually name people who this has happened to.

I await with interest to the answers.

Best regards

UKTech

You don't have any agreement with Volvo about what they can and can't do. If you allow it to be connected it to VIDA and you've changed any modules without making necessary updates to the program it's asking for trouble. It's what the security system is designed to do, like the alarm system setting when you use the remote locking.

I only know by reports on the forum of it happening and that it was difficult and expensive to fix. I haven't made any changes to my car so it's not an issue for me. I like having a secure car that's an undesirable target for crooks, so I like the system personally.

[UKTech]

Hi again
Thanks for your reply and sorry to the OP for coming in and going partly off subject but, I think the answers to this are of interest to them as well as anyone else.
Nobody so far has named anyone who this has happened to or sent us off to a thread that does, I still can't see how Volvo can render your car useless, either legally or morally or any other thing for that matter. Hopefully someone will come in and give us a definitive answer, until then I think it's a myth.

Regards to all and sorry to go slightly off subject.

UKTech

[RoyMacDonald]

Originally Posted by UKTech

Hi again
Thanks for your reply and sorry to the OP for coming in and going partly off subject but, I think the answers to this are of interest to them as well as anyone else.
Nobody so far has named anyone who this has happened to or sent us off to a thread that does, I still can't see how Volvo can render your car useless, either legally or morally or any other thing for that matter. Hopefully someone will come in and give us a definitive answer, until then I think it's a myth.

Regards to all and sorry to go slightly off subject.

UKTech

Ask Clan. He knows cars it has happened to.

Why would it be wrong to build in a security system that protects the car from theft? There is no way for the software to tell who is tampering/has tampered with the car, but if you follow the instructions in VIDA there won't be an issue. It's only the electronic modules that are affected.