Engine: T5: Relocate Engine?

[st5ve]

Ok here goes my turn for the sill question of the day!
Many members including myself modify our cars to get the best out of them, not just in performance but in handling as well. I have looked into the pro’s and con’s of converting my T5 to the conventional ic set up to a reverse ic as per the very first T5’s, I have read and being told that one of the advantages of going for the reverse ic is it shortens the length of the pipe work and helps to reduce heat and increases throttle response.

So here goes the silly question; Is it possible to move the engine further back closer to the bulk head and turn the engine round back to front, so instead of the turbo being at the back it is closer to the ic, has better cooling properties, shorter pipe work from turbo to ic and over all better balance of the car, or does the heat from the turbo and exhaust manifold negate any advantages of the turbo being closer to the ic?

I know in the na BTCC 850 they moved the engine further back as the balance of the car is not ideal for racing (to much weight forward). I have read one or two projects not just on here but other forums where owners have gone to great lengths to reduce weight of the 850 but none seem to have looked at relocating the engine.

[simonc]

Originally Posted by st5ve

Ok here goes my turn for the sill question of the day!
Many members including myself modify our cars to get the best out of them, not just in performance but in handling as well. I have looked into the pro’s and con’s of converting my T5 to the conventional ic set up to a reverse ic as per the very first T5’s, I have read and being told that one of the advantages of going for the reverse ic is it shortens the length of the pipe work and helps to reduce heat and increases throttle response.

So here goes the silly question; Is it possible to move the engine further back closer to the bulk head and turn the engine round back to front, so instead of the turbo being at the back it is closer to the ic, has better cooling properties, shorter pipe work from turbo to ic and over all better balance of the car, or does the heat from the turbo and exhaust manifold negate any advantages of the turbo being closer to the ic?

I know in the na BTCC 850 they moved the engine further back as the balance of the car is not ideal for racing (to much weight forward). I have read one or two projects not just on here but other forums where owners have gone to great lengths to reduce weight of the 850 but none seem to have looked at relocating the engine.

i thought it was april the first when i read this.

[GSMGuy]

Totally not worth doing, you could prob buy a nice new car for the money...



Mike

[st5ve]

Originally Posted by simonc

i thought it was april the first when i read this.

You must be very knowledgeable on this topic to make your statement, could you specifically specify why it would be deemed in your opinion to be an April fool?

If it is just down to the expense of doing the conversion then indicate the work that would be involved and an estimate of the cost. If costs were significant I would review future plans.

Many enthusiasts undertake projects that either cost a considerable amount of money or seem to be unrealistic, if everyone took your negative input we would still be in caves marvelling at the discovery of fire!

[st5ve]

Originally Posted by GSMGuy

Totally not worth doing, you could prob buy a nice new car for the money...



Mike

Hi Mike I realize the expense would probably be prohibitive but I just wanted to know if it was viable not taking into account the cost.

[Blue 8]

Why the negative input here fellas?

Do you think it was deemed April fool when the guy fitted two engines to his Vw Golf or when the first guy fitted a porsche engine into his beetle? or maybe when the first roof chop was done? no i doubt it .

Enthusiasts are just that " enthusiasts " all projects they undertake have to start somewhere, and normally that's with the help of others

Maybe if like me this thread is out of your league and you have nothing constrictive to say best to leave it to those that have and can help, and then you can like me just watch and learn if you wish too

[st5ve]

Originally Posted by Blue 8

Why the negative input here fellas?

Do you think it was deemed April fool when the guy fitted two engines to his Vw Golf or when the first guy fitted a porsche engine into his beetle? or maybe when the first roof chop was done? no i doubt it .

Enthusiasts are just that " enthusiasts " all projects they undertake have to start somewhere, and normally that's with the help of others

Maybe if like me this thread is out of your league and you have nothing constrictive to say best to leave it to those that have and can help, and then you can like me just watch and learn if you wish too

You have got it in one mate, I just want to learn and see if this is a viable project for me

[Blue 8]

Originally Posted by st5ve

You have got it in one mate, I just want to learn and see if this is a viable project for me

Maybe folk should read your sig strip, then they might see how enthusiastic you are about you cars and a dreamer your not, forums like this are all about projects/modification/car care etc i guess some just can`t see passed there own limitations.

[simonc]

its hardly rocket science, the cost /effort involved is just not justified by the gains it will achieve theres far more cost effective ways of gaining the extra power

[Blue 8]

Originally Posted by simonc

its hardly rocket science, the cost /effort involved is just not justified by the gains it will achieve theres far more cost effective ways of gaining the extra power

Simonc why not just leave the school boy input at the door on this one and let the OP get on with his post , theirs a good fella
I`ll add no more as will only spoil the guys thread.