Seriously?

[BicycleBoy]

Originally Posted by BicycleBoy

Well, if you really wanted a beige car, this is a good 'un:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-det...02208118697293
Not going to sell at half that price though...

This un?

[foggyjames]

Originally Posted by Othen

It does seem to have the right GLE badges (grille, boot and steering wheel), but certainly has a carburettor, which of course cannot have been fitted to a GLE (that being the whole point of the E in einspritzen of course).

The 'E' in GLE does not indicate injection. It stood for "Executive" (opposed to "Touring" for a GLT) in English-speaking markets, at least. Various models were badged as GLEs and had carbs, and I'm 99% certain that includes some years of 240 (although they messed around with the specs significantly in that era). I believe an earlier GLE would have had a B21E, but I think some later ones had a B21A (or B23A?), like a DL/GL.

I strongly suspect that it's original. GLs (at least of that age) didn't have such plush seats.

cheers

James

[foggyjames]

Here's another 'A' GLE for sale, for reference:
https://www.classiccarshq.co.uk/ads/...evious-owners/

Ah...I see all this was settled on Page 206. I am late to the party...

cheers

James

[Laird Scooby]

Originally Posted by foggyjames

The 'E' in GLE does not indicate injection. It stood for "Executive" (opposed to "Touring" for a GLT) in English-speaking markets, at least. Various models were badged as GLEs and had carbs, and I'm 99% certain that includes some years of 240 (although they messed around with the specs significantly in that era). I believe an earlier GLE would have had a B21E, but I think some later ones had a B21A (or B23A?), like a DL/GL.

I strongly suspect that it's original. GLs (at least of that age) didn't have such plush seats.

cheers

James

Going back to the 164, the "E" was synonymous with fuel injection, however it became confusing in the early 80s when Volvo started applying it willy-nilly to various models that were carb-fed. I remember the 360GLE caused complaints from customers because it had a carb and the new owners expected it to be "einsptritz" because of the "E" suffix. If you remember, Volvo then started fitting injection to the 360GLE as well as the GLT and i for one remain convinced it was down to the high number of complaints they had from 360GLE owners in the early 80s. Later in the 80s, particularly with the 740GLE, K-Jet injection was the norm (althogh some very early 740GLEs had a carb too - again customer complaints forced a change from Volvo) but it really is "caveat emptor" when buying to ensure it has the fueling they expect.

As almost all manufacturers say (or at least said) "we reserve the right to alter and amend specifications without notice" or words very similar meaning they could change their mind with the weather and the customer would have to like it or lump it.

[foggyjames]

Good point about the 164! I ought to have recalled that one!

Curiosity dictates that I will have to go away and look into the 360 GLE thing - unprompted, I would have said there was always a choice of fuel system! They were certainly available with a choice from very early on, but I wouldn't want to bet the house on my previous assumption being correct...!

I think 240 GLEs with carbs are an oddity, and it was only for a year or two, but there was presumably some method in the madness.

cheers

James

[Laird Scooby]

Originally Posted by foggyjames

Good point about the 164! I ought to have recalled that one!

Curiosity dictates that I will have to go away and look into the 360 GLE thing - unprompted, I would have said there was always a choice of fuel system! They were certainly available with a choice from very early on, but I wouldn't want to bet the house on my previous assumption being correct...!

I think 240 GLEs with carbs are an oddity, and it was only for a year or two, but there was presumably some method in the madness.

cheers

James

I remember being in the parts dept of Rudds in Southampton in ~1985 looking for a heater hose for my 144DL auto and overhearing a customer complaining loudly to the salesman about the 360GLE he'd just bought not having fuel injection and "the "E" denotes fuel injection, why hasn't my car got it?" or words very similar.

The parts guy quietly told me there was a Marina that used a near identical heater hose for 1/4 of the price and sending me to the roundabout at the other end of that stretch of dual carriageway to Newmans of Redbridge (then an Austin-Rover Group dealer, now Nissan i believe) to buy said hose.
I poootled along the dual carriageway past work to Newmans, got said hose then back along the other side to come off at Rudds roundabout and go back along the dual carriageway almost to Newmans again before turning into the road that led to the company car park. Went and had a quick feed and let the car cool down and fitted the hose before going home that night.
Oh yeah, Rudds were out of stock of that hose so even if i'd wanted to pay more, i couldn't have done!

[Bob 1967]

Originally Posted by BicycleBoy

Oh aye, I use shellac for all sorts, as "shellac sticks to anything, and everything sticks to shellac". Limited applications in post-war cars tho'

What else would you use for automotive paints (ie cellulose/2pak)?

Acrylic ,Enamel ,or redneck it with bedliner!
I have seen rollers used to paint cars, so nothing is beyond belief .

.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIM_dLz1n-Y

[Burdekin]

Originally Posted by Bob 1967

the Car and Classic ad.
Seller needs to do more research , his factoids about production numbers are way off.
Clear lacquer over silver would suggest 2 stage paint , this tells me it was recently resprayed ? Also signs of filler on sills in side on view.
Cellulose would be period correct?? It's only original once.
Nothing wrong with a respray , just don't like to be told it's original paint.
Not keen on the "Hot wheels" look either.
Ps. mine was resprayed ,badly .There was evidence of Barrier coat under the paint.

It’s metallic from new so I would imagine it had a clear over the top from new. I could be wrong but that would seem correct to me.

[Othen]

Originally Posted by foggyjames

The 'E' in GLE does not indicate injection. It stood for "Executive" (opposed to "Touring" for a GLT) in English-speaking markets, at least. Various models were badged as GLEs and had carbs, and I'm 99% certain that includes some years of 240 (although they messed around with the specs significantly in that era). I believe an earlier GLE would have had a B21E, but I think some later ones had a B21A (or B23A?), like a DL/GL.

I strongly suspect that it's original. GLs (at least of that age) didn't have such plush seats.

cheers

James

See: https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showp...postcount=2058

[BicycleBoy]

Originally Posted by Bob 1967

Acrylic ,Enamel ,or redneck it with bedliner!
I have seen rollers used to paint cars, so nothing is beyond belief .

.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIM_dLz1n-Y

Best ghetto paint jobby I ever had was a Mk2 Escort saloon previous owner had painted in grey primer - straight over a perfectly servicible bright green without any prep whatsoever. For £99 with 6 months ticket it was cheap!

Everybody gave that car a wide berth on the roads, brilliant for London driving!