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Apr 25th, 2024, 16:27 | #1271 | |
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From what I can see the paying yo charge your EV is over complicated with app’s etc etc instead of just pulling up, plug in, pay by debit card Charger reliability will always be an issue but if there was a bigger network so you had more choice in a local area it wouldn’t be a problem. Once again a result of too much, too quick without thought to the infrastructure including petrol which could have a bank of chargers. There’s still much work to be done before this becomes user friendly TT
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Apr 25th, 2024, 17:58 | #1272 |
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Par for the course with technology unfortunately, there's often an initial explosion of competing, incompatible standards in a nascent market. Look at phone/smartphone chargers/carkits, early home computers, the first commercial electricity distribution networks and the early railway companies for a start.
It's a shame we continue to repeat those mistakes but it will get there in a few years. Manufactures will soon enough realise that significant market growth depends on consumer acceptance, and likely governments will get involved at some stage too, as with Apple and the EU recently.
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Same with Tesla really, not a totally new thing. But that's not a slant on him - taking a good idea and making a commercial success of it is a great skill.
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Apr 25th, 2024, 18:57 | #1274 | |
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Apr 25th, 2024, 19:29 | #1275 | |
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The return and reuse of main stages is innovative, nobody else thought of it as important but it's turned a gentleman's club of companies charging hundreds of millions into a much wider field charging a fraction. Early entrants like Tesla rarely survive in the long run but the well runs ones often make a lot of cash out of technology licences before they get taken over, I haven't read much on Tesla though to know how prolific they've been with patents. I think the two companies say a lot about Musk, I'm just not sure what though! one is heavily invested but largely left to run itself to much success and the other swings back and forth in fortune through constant fiddling with the product line and social media meddling.
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Apr 26th, 2024, 13:23 | #1276 |
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I saw an interesting piece in USA Today this lunchtime.
Tesla apparently have yet to publish official sales figures for its Cybertruck however, since it has been the subject of an official recall notice, affected numbers have to be reported to the US Gov. Which in this case constitutes all units they've shipped so far. That number is just shy of 4000 in total, since late November 2023. By comparison, Ford shipped 7.7k of its electric F-150 Lightning pickups in the 3 months of Q1 2024, whilst Rivian shipped 13.5k units in that same period. Ford had orders for more but also hit a QA issue, which in their case led to a shipment pause in that period rather than a recall. I think the accolade for innovation and/or disruption in this particular market thus really has to go to Rivian right now, especially as a new entrant to vehicle manufacturing. It will be interesting to see what the likes of Ford and GM do about it.
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Apr 29th, 2024, 11:50 | #1277 | |
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No way would I put up with the utter mess of third party charging, etc - no matter how much I hated Tesla. If I felt that strongly about avoiding Tesla, I'd be buying a hybrid if I needed long-range motoring and it had to be something electrified for BIK reasons, or similar. cheers James
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Apr 29th, 2024, 16:36 | #1278 |
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It'll be interesting when euro 7 emissions vehicles hit the market. As of 2025, all new petrol and diesel vehicles will be required to emit no more than 60 milligrams of NOx to be compliant and will focus on particulates from brake dust and tyres.
TFL claims there's no plans to change the ULEZ criteria, but we all know plans can change. If they were to change the criteria, they'd have to allow time for people to swap. That could take years, but I don't doubt they'll move the goal posts to match their "green" agenda. Here's some key points regarding euro 7; There are some key changes proposed for the new Euro 7 emissions standard to help combat air pollution even further. • While Euro 6 focuses on tailpipe emissions, the new Euro 7 will also include limits on tyre and brakes emissions to help reduce microplastic waste. • Under the Euro 7 standards, a broader range of driving conditions will be covered such as hotter temperatures and short driving distances to make it match real-life driving situations. • The new permissible pollution levels will be subject to all cars and vans, regardless of the fuel type. • While there are currently different emission standards for cars and vans (Euro 6), and lorries and buses (Euro VI), Euro 7 aims to regulate all vehicles under one emissions standard to make things easier moving forward. This will apply the same limits on all vehicles, regardless of which type they are. • Under Euro 6, cars and vans must comply with the rules at least for the first five years and until they’ve completed 100,000 km. Euro 7 will double the compliance requirement to 10 years and 200,000 kilometres for cars and vans, and a similar increase for lorries and buses. • Euro 7 also looks at improving electric vehicles – especially their batteries. There will be requirements for batteries to work effectively for a set period of time to increase consumer confidence in the durability of EVs. • Euro 7 will also consider new vehicle technologies to make vehicles tamper-proof and to help with measuring emissions easily. Looks like EV's might be getting some attention (improving batteries).
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Apr 29th, 2024, 21:50 | #1280 | |
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The whole Tesla network is dedicated so that would certainly appeal to me. Sadly, I won’t be buying an EV anytime soon but I’d certainly look at a Tesla if I did TT
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