polyurethane bushings shot

[mhuk]

Some of you might have seen my issues with the steering. The steering wheel when holding a turn on a long bend feels as it's it tugging yet I get no movement on the steering wheel. It's just a feeling like being tugged back.

Back in late 2018 I replaced the front bushes with a set from retroturbo. It's after this and some time I started to get this feeling.

I replaced the steering rack (rebuild) as it was knocking from a worn arm (driver side) and no change. I also replaced the steering pump for a new one. No change. New allignment too.

I might have found the issue. Take a drive tomorrow with new bushes.

My around 8000 mile bushes (in red) are shot. I have contacted retroturbo asking if there was a bad batch or issue. I have yet to get a reply (since 19th july)

The warranty was 12 months and I'm not asking for something back just an answer.

To be honest. I never thought the bushes would be shot so did not give them a 2nd thought. Just proves parts replaced could still be the issue after a short life in service.


Have a look at the video's below. It's surpising how these have worn given the miles.

My powerflex bushes on the audi TT are all like new with more miles.

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF6KbXSypMM[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIT5KM2yLbg[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkHNyYBAvqI[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F81tXwqk7lE[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWMKO-LtHR0[/YOUTUBE]

[360beast]

Wow they are awful!!!

The rear bush in video one when fitted to the car shouldn't be a two piece bush at all. The superflex ones I've got are a one piece bush, a bit of a bugger to fit but they are solid.

The bush in the other videos is meant to be bonded to a metal sleeve, the fact it isn't is obviously allowing it to flex all over the place and wear out very quickly.

Go with superflex or genuine Volvo rubber.

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=307435

[mhuk]

It's not very good is it.

I forgot this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKe3Py6dtvk That's alloy too with bonded poly inside.

[mhuk]

The split bushes do not meet in the middle. Not long enough. You can see in the arm where the poly has been rubbing in the arm and then a little bit of clean metal in the arm.

[Laird Scooby]

I've scrapped better bushes than any of those are! I've seen some bushes go like that before though, not good at all! Usually if the bush you take out is a one-piece bush, a one piece bush must replace it.

I keep meaning to try some of this stuff on some bushes that wear quickly on my other beast :

https://www.mbfg.co.uk/pt-flex-70-rubber.html

Been threatening to try it for years and i think the stuff i bought is past its shelf-life now, maybe i'll get to try it anyway and it'll last long enough to give proof of concept though.

[mhuk]

I played with that sort of stuff few months back. Worked very well. As for my bushes I put them in the bin today. My new bushes are https://www.strongflex.eu/en/ from poland. I used them on the rear before and seem to hold up ok. i know these are not powerfelx ect.

I have powerflex on my mark 1 audi TT. I spent a lot on that car. My volvo also has superpro the oz company.

Time will tell!!!

[Millie20]

Originally Posted by mhuk

Some of you might have seen my issues with the steering. The steering wheel when holding a turn on a long bend feels as it's it tugging yet I get no movement on the steering wheel. It's just a feeling like being tugged back.

Back in late 2018 I replaced the front bushes with a set from retroturbo. It's after this and some time I started to get this feeling.

First off, go easy on me. I'm new to both Volvo and wrenching (N. American expat) on cars. I've mostly messed with motorcycles before taking them to a professional to fix my mistakes. With that said, I'm here to learn and a keen student.

Proud new keeper of member icurnow's 2006 v70 d5 185.

The symptom described about holding a turn on a long bend is exactly what I'm experiencing.

Here's where I show my ignorance.

When talking about front bushes, are we talking about control arm bushes?

Can anyone drop me a link to a correct replacement so that I can further my research?

much appreciated.

Edit - appreciate this isn't the v70 forum

[Laird Scooby]

Originally Posted by Millie20

First off, go easy on me. I'm new to both Volvo and wrenching (N. American expat) on cars. I've mostly messed with motorcycles before taking them to a professional to fix my mistakes. With that said, I'm here to learn and a keen student.

Proud new keeper of member icurnow's 2006 v70 d5 185.

The symptom described about holding a turn on a long bend is exactly what I'm experiencing.

Here's where I show my ignorance.

When talking about front bushes, are we talking about control arm bushes?

Can anyone drop me a link to a correct replacement so that I can further my research?

much appreciated.

Edit - appreciate this isn't the v70 forum

For the most part in this case, yes we are referring to the control arm bushes. The suspension design on the V70 is different to the 7/9xx design because the V70 is FWD so other factors come into play as well. Does your tugging feeling alter if you add a bit more power or take some away? Also do you know if you're wheel alignment is spot on? Any FWD car is more sensitive to slight misalignments when cornering than a RWD car.

As for part numbers, i think you'd honestly be better off asking in the relevant section of the V70 forum as you're more likely to get the correct answer. I had a brief look at one source of information i use and it appears there's more than one type of lower control arm fitted to yours - i could be misinterpretating what i'm seeing though.

Best bet would be to phone your local Volvo dealer and if they're not helpful, try one of the others recommended on here like Trust in London (formerly Braydons), FRF in Swansea or another recommended dealer local to you.

Even if you don't order the parts from them, they should be able to confirm the part number for you so you can hunt for various aftermarket options.

https://www.partsforvolvosonline.com/

That place is also quite good, have a browse through the site and see what you can find!

[Millie20]

Originally Posted by Laird Scooby

For the most part in this case, yes we are referring to the control arm bushes. The suspension design on the V70 is different to the 7/9xx design because the V70 is FWD so other factors come into play as well. Does your tugging feeling alter if you add a bit more power or take some away? Also do you know if you're wheel alignment is spot on? Any FWD car is more sensitive to slight misalignments when cornering than a RWD car.

As for part numbers, i think you'd honestly be better off asking in the relevant section of the V70 forum as you're more likely to get the correct answer. I had a brief look at one source of information i use and it appears there's more than one type of lower control arm fitted to yours - i could be misinterpretating what i'm seeing though.

Best bet would be to phone your local Volvo dealer and if they're not helpful, try one of the others recommended on here like Trust in London (formerly Braydons), FRF in Swansea or another recommended dealer local to you.

Even if you don't order the parts from them, they should be able to confirm the part number for you so you can hunt for various aftermarket options.

https://www.partsforvolvosonline.com/

That place is also quite good, have a browse through the site and see what you can find!

Thanks so much Dave, appreciate you taking the time. I only realised I was in the wrong forum after posting.

I haven't tried playing with the power when I experience the tug. Never one to turn away an excuse to go for a drive, I'll try it this afternoon. Fortunately, the car came with a full history. The alignment was done last year, so I suppose there's no guarantee it's still spot on.

Thanks for the pointers on suppliers. I'm in s.e London so will try trust as a first port of call alongside posting in the right section.

Thanks again.

Also Dave.

[classicswede]

They are very well known for wearing out the wishbone bushes on those models. The front ones wear the worst. As the front bush is a void bush it is common to replace them in poly

https://www.classicswede.co.uk/Poly_..._13484633.aspx

If staying with rubber then I would suggest complete arms and genuine Volvo if possible still