Amazon blue light blues...

Gordon Hunter · Dec 9th, 2006, 20:17

Thankfully its not a blue light in my rear view mirror thats the problem, but the one in the centre of the speedo!
Operating the light switch on the dash, I have as follows...
One pull: Side lights. Two pulls: dipped beam AND blue light. Foot switch: Full beam and blue light.
When I operate the flasher by pulling the indicator stalk, I only get a dipped beam with the blue light coming on on the speedo.
I understand (but may be wrong) that the blue light on the speedo shouldn't come on until the foot switch is depressed for the full beam or if the flasher is operated by pulling on the indicator stalk.
I have tried comparing the set up on the light switch and it is the same as on my other Amazon, which has not been messed with. I'd rather not take the steering column on the other car apart to check the wiring, and I did follow my notes on how it should be wired when it went back together correctly.
Could I have reconnected the indicator stalk incorrectly, or does this issue ring any bells with anyone???
As you have probably gathered by now, auto electrics are a BIG learning curve for me.
Any help much appreciated.

Gordon

222s · Dec 9th, 2006, 23:55

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Originally Posted by Gordon Hunter

I understand (but may be wrong) that the blue light on the speedo shouldn't come on until the foot switch is depressed for the full beam or if the flasher is operated by pulling on the indicator stalk.

AFAIK, that's how it should be, and also how it is on my car. Sorry I can't help any more, but electrics aren't my strong point either....

Gordon Hunter · Dec 10th, 2006, 09:58

I'll be happy to leave it as is then.

Gordon

BillKat · Dec 10th, 2006, 15:19

Pulling the indicator stalk is supposed to flash full beam (blue light on).

Pulling the dash switch fully out should be dipped beam / no blue light (unless the foot switch is set to full beam, in which case you get full beam + blue light).

So the blue light should only come on when high beam is selected I think.

At least, this is the way it is one of my cars, on one the stalk flasher doesn't work at all,

cheers
Bill

Martin Burch · Dec 10th, 2006, 18:04

Only had my Amazon for one day but the blue light does seem to only come on with full beam. I haven't had a chance to try out the indicator flashing headlights operation yet.
This is a 1965 model, just converted to alternator from a dynamo.
Maybe different model years behave differently?
Martin

TomTom · Dec 10th, 2006, 18:52

I also think the blue light should only come on when the full beam has been activated, not when the normal dipped lights are on. And the flasher should flash the full beams, not the dipped beams (otherwise you would se no flash effect when you are driving with dipped lights).

I think something small changed when you did the recent work on the indicator.

Tom

simon2 · Dec 10th, 2006, 22:13

It seems that the feed for the warning light has been connected to the light switch instead of to the dip switch. The connection for the warning light should be off the same terminal as the main beam terminal on the dipswitch. For it to work as you describe, it must be connected either to the light switch headlamp terminal (although not necessarily at the light switch itself !) or (more unlikely) to both dip and main beam terminals on the dip switch.

Good luck with it. I'm sure that it can be solved with checking over what's connected where.

Pigeon · Dec 11th, 2006, 14:33

It can't be connected to both dip and main terminals on the dip switch, otherwise dip and main would backfeed each other and you'd have both beams on at the same time no matter what you selected. (Unless someone put a couple of diodes in... but that would be a totally weird thing to do.) Somehow it's got connected to the feed to the dip switch rather than the main beam output, I think, though I don't have an Amazon wiring diagram to hand.

Can't help with the flash function... that never worked on my Amazon and I could never be bothered to fix it, so I never learnt the details of that part of the circuitry.

Mike Arnold · Dec 11th, 2006, 21:59

You may have a faulty foot-operated switch. These do get tired and the normal symptom is no lights. However, it might just be possible that the switch is illuminating both dipped and full beam simulataneously.

Gordon Hunter · Dec 12th, 2006, 12:43

The previous owner had connected the headlight terminals incorrectly.
I jhad ust assumed that they were correct and put them back the same way when I re-assembled the car.

All works as it should do now. Blue warning light on full beam only. Flasher works too.

Many thanks to you all for your helpful suggestions that made the process so much quicker.

Gordon

Dec 9th, 2006, 20:17	#1
Gordon Hunter Ex 1800 Register Keeper Last Online: Apr 29th, 2022 17:04 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Central Scotland	Amazon blue light blues... Thankfully its not a blue light in my rear view mirror thats the problem, but the one in the centre of the speedo! Operating the light switch on the dash, I have as follows... One pull: Side lights. Two pulls: dipped beam AND blue light. Foot switch: Full beam and blue light. When I operate the flasher by pulling the indicator stalk, I only get a dipped beam with the blue light coming on on the speedo. I understand (but may be wrong) that the blue light on the speedo shouldn't come on until the foot switch is depressed for the full beam or if the flasher is operated by pulling on the indicator stalk. I have tried comparing the set up on the light switch and it is the same as on my other Amazon, which has not been messed with. I'd rather not take the steering column on the other car apart to check the wiring, and I did follow my notes on how it should be wired when it went back together correctly. Could I have reconnected the indicator stalk incorrectly, or does this issue ring any bells with anyone??? As you have probably gathered by now, auto electrics are a BIG learning curve for me. Any help much appreciated. Gordon

Dec 10th, 2006, 09:58	#3
Gordon Hunter Ex 1800 Register Keeper Last Online: Apr 29th, 2022 17:04 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Central Scotland	Thanks, I'll be happy to leave it as is then. Gordon

Dec 10th, 2006, 15:19	#4
BillKat Senior Member Last Online: Aug 16th, 2023 21:45 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cambs	Pulling the indicator stalk is supposed to flash full beam (blue light on). Pulling the dash switch fully out should be dipped beam / no blue light (unless the foot switch is set to full beam, in which case you get full beam + blue light). So the blue light should only come on when high beam is selected I think. At least, this is the way it is one of my cars, on one the stalk flasher doesn't work at all, cheers Bill Last edited by BillKat; Dec 10th, 2006 at 15:23.

Dec 10th, 2006, 22:13	#7
simon2 New Member Last Online: Jul 27th, 2007 21:51 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dumfries	Headlight main beam light It seems that the feed for the warning light has been connected to the light switch instead of to the dip switch. The connection for the warning light should be off the same terminal as the main beam terminal on the dipswitch. For it to work as you describe, it must be connected either to the light switch headlamp terminal (although not necessarily at the light switch itself !) or (more unlikely) to both dip and main beam terminals on the dip switch. Good luck with it. I'm sure that it can be solved with checking over what's connected where.

Dec 11th, 2006, 14:33	#8
Pigeon Volvo-loving biker Last Online: Feb 3rd, 2019 05:24 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: All alone in the crazy city	It can't be connected to both dip and main terminals on the dip switch, otherwise dip and main would backfeed each other and you'd have both beams on at the same time no matter what you selected. (Unless someone put a couple of diodes in... but that would be a totally weird thing to do.) Somehow it's got connected to the feed to the dip switch rather than the main beam output, I think, though I don't have an Amazon wiring diagram to hand. Can't help with the flash function... that never worked on my Amazon and I could never be bothered to fix it, so I never learnt the details of that part of the circuitry. __________________ Pigeon's Nest Be kind to pigeons

Dec 10th, 2006, 18:04	#5
Martin Burch New Member Last Online: Feb 1st, 2012 18:30 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Still near Leicester	Only had my Amazon for one day but the blue light does seem to only come on with full beam. I haven't had a chance to try out the indicator flashing headlights operation yet. This is a 1965 model, just converted to alternator from a dynamo. Maybe different model years behave differently? Martin

Dec 10th, 2006, 18:52	#6
TomTom Master Member Last Online: Jun 3rd, 2021 16:03 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: London	I also think the blue light should only come on when the full beam has been activated, not when the normal dipped lights are on. And the flasher should flash the full beams, not the dipped beams (otherwise you would se no flash effect when you are driving with dipped lights). I think something small changed when you did the recent work on the indicator. Tom

Dec 11th, 2006, 21:59	#9
Mike Arnold Master Member Last Online: May 16th, 2024 12:39 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Stockport, Gtr Manchester View Photos By: Mike Arnold	You may have a faulty foot-operated switch. These do get tired and the normal symptom is no lights. However, it might just be possible that the switch is illuminating both dipped and full beam simulataneously. __________________ Mike Arnold. 1966 122S

Dec 12th, 2006, 12:43	#10
Gordon Hunter Ex 1800 Register Keeper Last Online: Apr 29th, 2022 17:04 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Central Scotland	Problem solved... The previous owner had connected the headlight terminals incorrectly. I jhad ust assumed that they were correct and put them back the same way when I re-assembled the car. All works as it should do now. Blue warning light on full beam only. Flasher works too. Many thanks to you all for your helpful suggestions that made the process so much quicker. Gordon

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