Turbo T28

adieu · Jul 9th, 2006, 17:33

Ok so i know some of you don't like the way i post or some of the comments i have made in the past.

Below is a link to another volvo site.

Before you go and have a look please be aware that my reasons for posting this are not for personel gain or finacial gain.

It would seem that some people believe they can use others graphs photo's with out thier permission to show a product in a bad light.

The person making the post has made no attempt to contact myself before using the said item.

I believe many of you would want to give permission to another before they use something for thier gain.

Stuart at SW aAuto's wanted to use a picture i posted on these forums and asked before doing so.

Before you start saying it's in the public domain please remember this person knows who i'am and how to contact myself.

http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11723

Sorry rant over

Regards

Iain

Aeroresh · Jul 9th, 2006, 18:29

Why dont you take it up with the person involved then?

Hasnt really got anything to do with the rest of us other than the fact that you're clearly trying to get us all involved to start another non constructive "volvo tuners war" thread.

Hands up if anyone else is tired of all this?

adieu · Jul 9th, 2006, 19:09

The reason for bring it up on this site is because my post made complaining about the said graph etc has been deleted from the other forum involved. FUNNY THAT!!!!

Seems my post has to be "suspended your post to adam for the time being pending approval."

Glad the mods are here allow FREE SPEECH!

Sorry for a further rant but it would seem the only place to have a little free speech is on THIS forum

Regards

Iain

edit due to spelling mistake of which i'm sure there are more

2nd edit due to : more info

adieu · Jul 9th, 2006, 20:03

Ok so i asked if they would remove my graph, guess what nope, asked again and got these responses.

Quote:
Originally Posted by splatt
Oh dear, you know where it went. Iain.
It is still subject of discussion. You know where it went per my PM to you and your 2 replies.
If we are all trying to get along then why be so obtuse?

This is NOT to continue on open forum.

Ok then lets sort it here!

The Graph belongs to myself. I HAVE asked you to remove it.

If you fail to remove said graph with 1 hour from now (1936 9/7/06) i will be forced to take further action.

I look forward to hearing from you within the hour.

Regards

Iain

OK, All I see on your profile on the link is other peoples cars. I cant see the graph but even if it is there who is to say it is yours.
I see no copywrite warning on it.
You have made no effort to get along in this matter other than to make threats of action. Hardly supportive and more disruptive.
I have asked the poster to remove the link if he truly has no permission.
You are banned from this point on

Kinda like this bit at the bottom.

I do wish he had given me the time to allow him acces to a locked picture gallery that i have on my webshots site and he would have seen the graph. As it is they know full well that i'm the only owner of a T5R with a T28 Hybrid fitted in the UK.

It would seem that all they have done again is to delete posts and ban people for asking to them to remove something that does not belong to them.

I would also like to add this : Copyright protection in the UK is automatic and there is no registration system - so there are no forms to fill in and no fees to pay.

Since I have been banned from the other forums I know there mods pop over here and read our posts, so please feel free to explain you reason for banning me and for not allowing me to reply to your pm's. If you do not wish to do so in the open then please email me.

I have unlocked the album containing the graph. see below link:

http://community.webshots.com/user/adieu100

Regards

Iain

iGGy · Jul 9th, 2006, 21:12

Thankfully I don't have to make any comment about the turbo wars, but I think the fact that the picture in the thread has been cropped enough that you can't definitively identify it as being referenced to you or your cars details in text, not the graphical profile, could be the main stumbling block in your objection.

adieu · Jul 9th, 2006, 21:31

Can't tell me these arn't the same graphs!

Please don't copy them

I would also like to apoligise in advance to anyone who may not like the content of this post. (sorry)

Regards

Iain

don kalmar union · Jul 9th, 2006, 21:46

I have to say that the wider Volvo Community should be attentive to the implications of this thread.

For my part, over some years now I have had to protect my business and to some extent my own integrity against some parties who prevent open discussion in support of their own egos, agendas and the business interests of associates. I have other competitors with whom I have good and often supportive relationships, this being the case over a long working life.

Ian's post here IS for the benefit of the Volvo owning community and these matters are correctly raised whilst these circumstances prevail.

There has been a thread started on the VPCUK site by Chiptuning aka VT/HLM .... to promote a new product which pupports to incorporate a hybrid turbo and mark its superiority over the offering of Turbo Technics which is suitable for the same purpose.

TT are one of a very small number of engineering business's run by the most experienced and knowledgeable of men specialising in turbochargers throughout the world. To criticise their product is foolish and dishonest.

The more so when the Power Engineering graph of a run of Ian Inglis's car has been posted as an example of the inadequacy of the TT turbo. His car runs MTE software and Ian wanted the boost kept down to ensure reliability and longevity in his T5R. I have been driven in this car and it stands out for its performance and progressive nature.

There are some other cars with these TT turbos and MTE software and some high and sustainable boost figures have been obtained.

The PE graph which we now know to be of Ian's car has been used to progress a false and misleading proposition and his countering this has lead to his post being deleted from that other site.

Regards, Don.Norchi.

WAYNET5ER · Jul 11th, 2006, 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by adieu

Ok so i know some of you don't like the way i post or some of the comments i have made in the past.

Below is a link to another volvo site.

Before you go and have a look please be aware that my reasons for posting this are not for personel gain or finacial gain.

It would seem that some people believe they can use others graphs photo's with out thier permission to show a product in a bad light.

The person making the post has made no attempt to contact myself before using the said item.

I believe many of you would want to give permission to another before they use something for thier gain.

Stuart at SW aAuto's wanted to use a picture i posted on these forums and asked before doing so.

Before you start saying it's in the public domain please remember this person knows who i'am and how to contact myself.

http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11723

Sorry rant over

Regards

Iain

But are you not breaking copyright laws themselves buy putting a link to another forum were there is a discusion going that may also contain other graphs from other companies??????? i think so.All i can see from the thread is that it is just a dig at Adam(which he does admit he will put his hands up if he has done something wrong) and also a dig at VT

adieu · Jul 11th, 2006, 18:14

I have linked to an article on another website. I HAVE NOT copied anything from that site or changed/edited anything relating to said article.. Therefore I am not in Breach of copyright I HAVE COPIED NOTHING!.

Adam is now hosting MY graph on his website which is infact a breach of copyright as he has copied something which does not belong to him! He is also using the graph for his own personnel gain by showing the T28 Hybrid in a bad light!

If someone used a picture of your car (showing numberplates) or a picture of yourself/wife/daughter without your permission i think you might see all this in a diffrent light.

Adam knew full well that graph was from my car and SHOULD have contacted me before using it. It is just common decency!

All this would have stopped straight away if Adam had removed the graph from the tread and not hosted it on his site. Don't go blaming me for something i have NOT done!

Adam is the one here who is being pig headed by not removing the graph. I have no control over what he hosts but I can ask him as a person (which I have done) to remove the graph. I'm sure Don/Stuart or even most of you here would have the decency to comply with such a request!

Regards

Iain

WAYNET5ER · Jul 11th, 2006, 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by adieu

I have linked to an article on another website. I HAVE NOT copied anything from that site or changed/edited anything relating to said article.. Therefore I am not in Breach of copyright I HAVE COPIED NOTHING!.

Adam is now hosting MY graph on his website which is infact a breach of copyright as he has copied something which does not belong to him! He is also using the graph for his own personnel gain by showing the T28 Hybrid in a bad light!

If someone used a picture of your car (showing numberplates) or a picture of yourself/wife/daughter without your permission i think you might see all this in a diffrent light.

Adam knew full well that graph was from my car and SHOULD have contacted me before using it. It is just common decency!

All this would have stopped straight away if Adam had removed the graph from the tread and not hosted it on his site. Don't go blaming me for something i have NOT done!

Adam is the one here who is being pig headed by not removing the graph. I have no control over what he hosts but I can ask him as a person (which I have done) to remove the graph. I'm sure Don/Stuart or even most of you here would have the decency to comply with such a request!

Regards

Iain

You can post pics allday of my car with its plates on if you wish i dont really care.I was not blaming anybody of anything just asking a simple question which yet again has been blown out of all proportion.

Jul 9th, 2006, 17:33	#1
adieu Master Member Last Online: Feb 5th, 2021 19:07 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: swindon	Turbo T28 Ok so i know some of you don't like the way i post or some of the comments i have made in the past. Below is a link to another volvo site. Before you go and have a look please be aware that my reasons for posting this are not for personel gain or finacial gain. It would seem that some people believe they can use others graphs photo's with out thier permission to show a product in a bad light. The person making the post has made no attempt to contact myself before using the said item. I believe many of you would want to give permission to another before they use something for thier gain. Stuart at SW aAuto's wanted to use a picture i posted on these forums and asked before doing so. Before you start saying it's in the public domain please remember this person knows who i'am and how to contact myself. http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11723 Sorry rant over Regards Iain __________________ Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary… That’s what gets you. A turbo: Exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster

Jul 9th, 2006, 19:09	#3
adieu Master Member Last Online: Feb 5th, 2021 19:07 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: swindon	the reason for bring it up on this site The reason for bring it up on this site is because my post made complaining about the said graph etc has been deleted from the other forum involved. FUNNY THAT!!!! Seems my post has to be "suspended your post to adam for the time being pending approval." Glad the mods are here allow FREE SPEECH! Sorry for a further rant but it would seem the only place to have a little free speech is on THIS forum Regards Iain edit due to spelling mistake of which i'm sure there are more 2nd edit due to : more info __________________ Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary… That’s what gets you. A turbo: Exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster Last edited by adieu; Jul 9th, 2006 at 19:16.

Jul 9th, 2006, 20:03	#4
adieu Master Member Last Online: Feb 5th, 2021 19:07 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: swindon	Further requests made by me to remove my GRAPH Ok so i asked if they would remove my graph, guess what nope, asked again and got these responses. Quote: Originally Posted by splatt Oh dear, you know where it went. Iain. It is still subject of discussion. You know where it went per my PM to you and your 2 replies. If we are all trying to get along then why be so obtuse? This is NOT to continue on open forum. Ok then lets sort it here! The Graph belongs to myself. I HAVE asked you to remove it. If you fail to remove said graph with 1 hour from now (1936 9/7/06) i will be forced to take further action. I look forward to hearing from you within the hour. Regards Iain OK, All I see on your profile on the link is other peoples cars. I cant see the graph but even if it is there who is to say it is yours. I see no copywrite warning on it. You have made no effort to get along in this matter other than to make threats of action. Hardly supportive and more disruptive. I have asked the poster to remove the link if he truly has no permission. You are banned from this point on Kinda like this bit at the bottom. I do wish he had given me the time to allow him acces to a locked picture gallery that i have on my webshots site and he would have seen the graph. As it is they know full well that i'm the only owner of a T5R with a T28 Hybrid fitted in the UK. It would seem that all they have done again is to delete posts and ban people for asking to them to remove something that does not belong to them. I would also like to add this : Copyright protection in the UK is automatic and there is no registration system - so there are no forms to fill in and no fees to pay. Since I have been banned from the other forums I know there mods pop over here and read our posts, so please feel free to explain you reason for banning me and for not allowing me to reply to your pm's. If you do not wish to do so in the open then please email me. I have unlocked the album containing the graph. see below link: http://community.webshots.com/user/adieu100 Regards Iain __________________ Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary… That’s what gets you. A turbo: Exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster Last edited by adieu; Jul 9th, 2006 at 20:50.

Jul 9th, 2006, 21:31	#6
adieu Master Member Last Online: Feb 5th, 2021 19:07 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: swindon	Same graph Can't tell me these arn't the same graphs! Please don't copy them I would also like to apoligise in advance to anyone who may not like the content of this post. (sorry) Regards Iain __________________ Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary… That’s what gets you. A turbo: Exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster Last edited by adieu; Jul 9th, 2006 at 21:42.

Jul 11th, 2006, 18:14	#9
adieu Master Member Last Online: Feb 5th, 2021 19:07 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: swindon	Copyright I have linked to an article on another website. I HAVE NOT copied anything from that site or changed/edited anything relating to said article.. Therefore I am not in Breach of copyright I HAVE COPIED NOTHING!. Adam is now hosting MY graph on his website which is infact a breach of copyright as he has copied something which does not belong to him! He is also using the graph for his own personnel gain by showing the T28 Hybrid in a bad light! If someone used a picture of your car (showing numberplates) or a picture of yourself/wife/daughter without your permission i think you might see all this in a diffrent light. Adam knew full well that graph was from my car and SHOULD have contacted me before using it. It is just common decency! All this would have stopped straight away if Adam had removed the graph from the tread and not hosted it on his site. Don't go blaming me for something i have NOT done! Adam is the one here who is being pig headed by not removing the graph. I have no control over what he hosts but I can ask him as a person (which I have done) to remove the graph. I'm sure Don/Stuart or even most of you here would have the decency to comply with such a request! Regards Iain __________________ Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary… That’s what gets you. A turbo: Exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster

Jul 9th, 2006, 18:29	#2
Aeroresh Member Last Online: Oct 28th, 2021 14:10 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Great Britain	Why dont you take it up with the person involved then? Hasnt really got anything to do with the rest of us other than the fact that you're clearly trying to get us all involved to start another non constructive "volvo tuners war" thread. Hands up if anyone else is tired of all this?

Jul 9th, 2006, 21:12	#5
iGGy Senior Member Last Online: Apr 26th, 2024 20:34 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wrexham	Thankfully I don't have to make any comment about the turbo wars, but I think the fact that the picture in the thread has been cropped enough that you can't definitively identify it as being referenced to you or your cars details in text, not the graphical profile, could be the main stumbling block in your objection.

Jul 9th, 2006, 21:46	#7
don kalmar union Trader Last Online: Today 09:45 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chesham, buckinghamshire	I have to say that the wider Volvo Community should be attentive to the implications of this thread. For my part, over some years now I have had to protect my business and to some extent my own integrity against some parties who prevent open discussion in support of their own egos, agendas and the business interests of associates. I have other competitors with whom I have good and often supportive relationships, this being the case over a long working life. Ian's post here IS for the benefit of the Volvo owning community and these matters are correctly raised whilst these circumstances prevail. There has been a thread started on the VPCUK site by Chiptuning aka VT/HLM .... to promote a new product which pupports to incorporate a hybrid turbo and mark its superiority over the offering of Turbo Technics which is suitable for the same purpose. TT are one of a very small number of engineering business's run by the most experienced and knowledgeable of men specialising in turbochargers throughout the world. To criticise their product is foolish and dishonest. The more so when the Power Engineering graph of a run of Ian Inglis's car has been posted as an example of the inadequacy of the TT turbo. His car runs MTE software and Ian wanted the boost kept down to ensure reliability and longevity in his T5R. I have been driven in this car and it stands out for its performance and progressive nature. There are some other cars with these TT turbos and MTE software and some high and sustainable boost figures have been obtained. The PE graph which we now know to be of Ian's car has been used to progress a false and misleading proposition and his countering this has lead to his post being deleted from that other site. Regards, Don.Norchi.

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