warning about the police

Feb 16th, 2006, 19:12

i parked my landrover outside on the grass away from the road while i wait for the dvla to send me my new v5 to tax her. the police knocked on my door telling me the raod went upto the front of the building so it was parked on a public roadway. i'm now facing 3 points and a fine. beware. don't park sorn cars anywhere other than private property!

eddie69 · Feb 16th, 2006, 19:29

hi,
where do you get the three points from!!!

regards Eddie
850 T5

neil stevenson · Feb 16th, 2006, 23:48

Not having a valid road tax disc on display is not a police matter. Only traffic wardens or clampers for the DVLA issue tickets for this.
Not having insurance on a vehicle on the public highway is an offence dealt with by the police.
If the council or other government body maintain the grass area then it is classed as the public road even if it is an offence to drive on it as in the footpath.
Vehicles that are sorn'd that are caught on the road are dealt with by the DVLA not the police.

imac · Feb 16th, 2006, 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by neil stevenson

Not having a valid road tax disc on display is not a police matter. Only traffic wardens or clampers for the DVLA issue tickets for this.
Not having insurance on a vehicle on the public highway is an offence dealt with by the police.
If the council or other government body maintain the grass area then it is classed as the public road even if it is an offence to drive on it as in the footpath.
Vehicles that are sorn'd that are caught on the road are dealt with by the DVLA not the police.

No tax = no insurance ?

LankyTim · Feb 17th, 2006, 03:26

A bit over zealous by the police maybe? They could have simply informed you and given you a ticking off and given you chance to move your land rover, seeing as there was no intention of causing an offence.

A few years ago I think thats exactly what they would have done. There doesnt seem to be any leeway nowadays.

Bit of a long shot, but you could tell them that it wasnt you that parked it there. The person that parked it there would be the one liable for the fine. Maybe you dont know who this person was? hint hint.

Feb 17th, 2006, 10:24

take a few photos - do you own the grass??

you wont get points - just a fine from the dvla i think..

perussell · Feb 17th, 2006, 16:21

One of my friends was recently stopped by the police because his road tax had expired - he bought the car last year and thought the dealer had provided 12 months cover rather than the 6 months that were actually on the car (or so he says..........)

Anyway, all the police can do is report any offender to the DVLA so there are definitely no points involved.

I understand the DVLA have the ability to fine offenders an £80 penalty and any back tax up to the present date so looks like you will be out of pocket but still have a clean(?) licence.

Welshboyglos · Feb 28th, 2006, 09:22

My brothers car got caught by a policeman for not having a valid tax disc on display. The police CAN get you for not having tax on a car as they are law enforcers. The notice was slapped on the windscreen with a bright red piece of paper noting that the officers have "witnessed" a vehicle not displaying a tax disc and the rest is history. They class that you have broken the law.

As for not knowing that the dealer hadn't taxed the car for the 12 months, did they not get their renewal notification through the post???

Rant over

foggyjames · Feb 28th, 2006, 18:53

The police are increasingly pulling off a VERY sneaky tactic. They will write you a ticket for a 'crime', and if you pay it, you've admitted guilt. If you say "oi, that's not actually a crime, you tarts", they just say....er...good point, and let you off. This is certainly happening in the Derby area.

My 340 (which incidentally used to be 5lab's

) was today given a ticket for not displaying a parking permit in an area which is not signed as being a permit-holders zone. I'd left it in the glovebox after a few days away. Notes were popped through the door stating that there was a "neighbourhood watch permit scheme" in effect, but I'm calling BS on it. What's to stop an innocent member of the public parking in the road, popping to a house around the corner, and coming back to find a fine? There is NO warning at all. How can that possibly be legal?

Had the copper bothered to run a plate check, he'd have seen that the car is registered to the house it's parked outside. Did he bother? NO. He had time to write out a ticket though. ****er.

Sorry, I'm ****ed off with the Police at the moment. Did they prosecute the drunk pedestrian who ran in front of my car, causing £1k+ of damage, not to mention the emotional trauma of seeing a Polak draped across my bonnet? NO. Did they even bother attending the scene when a radio was stolen from a car outside my house? NO. But do they have time to write out illegitimate parking tickets? OH YES.

GRRRRR! I don't know about you, but I don't pay a council tax contribution to them so they can be of no use to me, whilst at the same time making life difficult. Don't even get me started on TV licensing...

cheers

James

Rooster · Feb 28th, 2006, 19:28

I'd tell them where they could shove there 3 points and get on with some proper police work for a change.

Were you driving the vehicle, no
were you in the vehicle, no
was the vehicle even on the road, no

Used to have quiet abit of respect for police but not anymore

Feb 16th, 2006, 19:12	#1
mongman Guest Location:	warning about the police i parked my landrover outside on the grass away from the road while i wait for the dvla to send me my new v5 to tax her. the police knocked on my door telling me the raod went upto the front of the building so it was parked on a public roadway. i'm now facing 3 points and a fine. beware. don't park sorn cars anywhere other than private property!

Feb 16th, 2006, 23:48	#3
neil stevenson Senior Member Last Online: Jun 6th, 2017 14:09 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Carrowdore	Not having a valid road tax disc on display is not a police matter. Only traffic wardens or clampers for the DVLA issue tickets for this. Not having insurance on a vehicle on the public highway is an offence dealt with by the police. If the council or other government body maintain the grass area then it is classed as the public road even if it is an offence to drive on it as in the footpath. Vehicles that are sorn'd that are caught on the road are dealt with by the DVLA not the police. __________________ Neil Stevenson 2000 S40 1600cc. 940 SE Turbo Estate.(sold).

Feb 28th, 2006, 09:22	#8
Welshboyglos id was joe440andrew460 Last Online: Jan 27th, 2013 12:13 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Gloucester	My brothers car got caught by a policeman for not having a valid tax disc on display. The police CAN get you for not having tax on a car as they are law enforcers. The notice was slapped on the windscreen with a bright red piece of paper noting that the officers have "witnessed" a vehicle not displaying a tax disc and the rest is history. They class that you have broken the law. As for not knowing that the dealer hadn't taxed the car for the 12 months, did they not get their renewal notification through the post??? Rant over __________________ Joe & Andrew '01 V70 T5 SE "Ollie aka The Boat" (MW51DGE) '95 440 1.8Si "Myrtle" (N241NTG)

Feb 28th, 2006, 19:28	#10
Rooster Speed freak Last Online: Apr 3rd, 2020 22:04 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Yorkshire	I'd tell them where they could shove there 3 points and get on with some proper police work for a change. Were you driving the vehicle, no were you in the vehicle, no was the vehicle even on the road, no Used to have quiet abit of respect for police but not anymore __________________ 04 XC90 D5 --- Big bus 00 pug 306HDi --- Run about 88 pug 309GTi --- Project track car 07 CB600 Hornet --- 2 wheel fun

Feb 16th, 2006, 19:29	#2
eddie69 Eddie69 Last Online: Jan 12th, 2009 20:13 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: northumberland	hi, where do you get the three points from!!! regards Eddie 850 T5

Feb 17th, 2006, 03:26	#5
LankyTim Missing the point Last Online: Feb 5th, 2023 23:12 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Stoke-On-Trent View Photos By: LankyTim	A bit over zealous by the police maybe? They could have simply informed you and given you a ticking off and given you chance to move your land rover, seeing as there was no intention of causing an offence. A few years ago I think thats exactly what they would have done. There doesnt seem to be any leeway nowadays. Bit of a long shot, but you could tell them that it wasnt you that parked it there. The person that parked it there would be the one liable for the fine. Maybe you dont know who this person was? hint hint.

Feb 17th, 2006, 10:24	#6
5lab Guest Location:	take a few photos - do you own the grass?? you wont get points - just a fine from the dvla i think..

Feb 17th, 2006, 16:21	#7
perussell Member Last Online: Apr 7th, 2008 14:40 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: N Wilts	One of my friends was recently stopped by the police because his road tax had expired - he bought the car last year and thought the dealer had provided 12 months cover rather than the 6 months that were actually on the car (or so he says..........) Anyway, all the police can do is report any offender to the DVLA so there are definitely no points involved. I understand the DVLA have the ability to fine offenders an £80 penalty and any back tax up to the present date so looks like you will be out of pocket but still have a clean(?) licence.

Feb 28th, 2006, 18:53	#9
foggyjames 300 Register Keeper Last Online: Apr 24th, 2024 09:13 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nottingham	The police are increasingly pulling off a VERY sneaky tactic. They will write you a ticket for a 'crime', and if you pay it, you've admitted guilt. If you say "oi, that's not actually a crime, you tarts", they just say....er...good point, and let you off. This is certainly happening in the Derby area. My 340 (which incidentally used to be 5lab's ) was today given a ticket for not displaying a parking permit in an area which is not signed as being a permit-holders zone. I'd left it in the glovebox after a few days away. Notes were popped through the door stating that there was a "neighbourhood watch permit scheme" in effect, but I'm calling BS on it. What's to stop an innocent member of the public parking in the road, popping to a house around the corner, and coming back to find a fine? There is NO warning at all. How can that possibly be legal? Had the copper bothered to run a plate check, he'd have seen that the car is registered to the house it's parked outside. Did he bother? NO. He had time to write out a ticket though. **er. Sorry, I'm **ed off with the Police at the moment. Did they prosecute the drunk pedestrian who ran in front of my car, causing £1k+ of damage, not to mention the emotional trauma of seeing a Polak draped across my bonnet? NO. Did they even bother attending the scene when a radio was stolen from a car outside my house? NO. But do they have time to write out illegitimate parking tickets? OH YES. GRRRRR! I don't know about you, but I don't pay a council tax contribution to them so they can be of no use to me, whilst at the same time making life difficult. Don't even get me started on TV licensing... cheers James

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