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D4 VEA 'check engine' light / EGR fault thread

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Old Mar 11th, 2019, 06:59   #2031
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I hadn't actually noticed any oil consumption at all, although I hadn't checked it for a while.
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Don't forget your engine has been changed by Volvo with 90% of the invoice paid by Volvo ! You're so lucky...
So with a new engine, you should not burn oil .

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Old Mar 11th, 2019, 07:00   #2032
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I doubt if Volvo/Geely would jeopardise the success of the SPA platform with the VEA, if there was an inherent design fault with the VEA.

My gut feel is that they knew and fixed the issue for the SPA cars (having trialled them in the last phase of the old platform.. ie our cars).

It would be nice if they respected their loyal customers/fans and offered a recall. In return, they would get brand loyalty i'm sure.

If Volvo are truly a safety focused company, how could they risk cars suddenly going into limp mode on the motorway, when they KNOW their cars have a problem?

It's a sad state of affairs. I really hope they follow these forums, and do the right thing. Yes, they are fixing the problems as they are reported (which is good), but why not be proactive about it?

All these problems will finish for sure with a Class Action against Volvo.
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So does this problem then cause a high oil consumption which in turn then causes an EGR system blockage? Or is this a completely separate fault that actually has nothing to do with the EGR valve and cooler blockages?
I think the 2 problems are linked.

EGR not fixed make lot of soots,
Soots come into the cylinder , soot + oil clog the piston rings,
Then piston rings become inefficients,
And then the motor burn oil,
And then EGR cooler clog...


How can we demonstrate that ?
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Old Mar 11th, 2019, 08:32   #2035
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The error code was for blocked EGR/ cooler. As I'd already had the final fix, the dealer suggested a leakage test. I would suspect they've seen this before for even suggesting it. The EGR and cooler were replaced along with the engine..

I hadn't actually noticed any oil consumption at all, although I hadn't checked it for a while.

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I think the 2 problems are linked.

EGR not fixed make lot of soots,
Soots come into the cylinder , soot + oil clog the piston rings,
Then piston rings become inefficients,
And then the motor burn oil,
And then EGR cooler clog...


How can we demonstrate that ?
I don't know, but there seems to be no real evidence linking these problems. Maybe they are both 'characteristics' of this engine so some unlucky owners will suffer both problems?

If an EGR problem was to generate excessive soot then wouldn't the DPF become overwhelmed? And wouldn't excessive EGR flow cause too little oxygen to be present in combustion and so cause an error code from the exhaust manifold oxygen sensor? Conversely, other than increasing NOx emissions, insufficient EGR flow is not going to cause any engine problems (and surely the issue with the EGR system is that it becomes blocked, causing insufficient EGR flow?).
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Old Mar 11th, 2019, 16:25   #2036
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Hey, I just wanted to provide an update to my repair last week. When it was diagnosed the guy mentioned "intercooler" needed replacing, but when the work had been done and I collected the car he said "EGR valve" so I'm not sure exactly what has been changed. Although his colleague said the valve I have on now is the newest design, using a wider pipe which has been Teflon coated to prevent build up. Sounds sensible.

Also, when I asked if the repair that Volvo had paid for had any sort of warranty, the guy said not. There was effectively no warranty as I had not paid anything for the repair.

Hope this helps others.
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Reading this thread is making me so cross that I have bought what I thought to be hassle free motoring for the next 8 - 10 years (my previous car was S60 2.4 SE D5 which was 14 yrs old before it showed any signs of trouble) and the reality is I have to sell my beloved V40 D4 after just 16 months and replace with a non volvo purely at my inconvenience and huge expense because of a manufacturers fault! NOT HAPPY!!
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Old Mar 11th, 2019, 17:18   #2038
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looking at your previous posts it appears to be your driving style that has caused the problems ?

I can't believe that a Volvo dealer said this, surely you have grounds for a legal claim ?

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I was told exactly the same by the technician word for word! (Rybrook?). I had the leakage test done which showed a problem with the piston rings.

The solution was a new engine at a cost of £8700. Fortunately I had a full Volvo service history and to be fair, the dealership were really helpful and negotiated a 90% contribution from Volvo, despite the car being more than 4 years old. Still cost me £870 though.

I now have a 12 month warranty on the engine and cooler so that gives me 12 months to decide whether to hang on or get rid.
It was Rybrook's at Warrington - yes!
So frustrating isn't it?!
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looking at your previous posts it appears to be your driving style that has caused the problems ?

I can't believe that a Volvo dealer said this, surely you have grounds for a legal claim ?

Iain

The same at my dealer in France... is it Volvo defence line !
A legal claim... believe me it will cost a lot. They will made expertise, your car will be parked during the procedure, you will have to pay for a rental car, you will have to pay the fees, it will last a while....
Personally, I have choose not to start a legal claim but to burn my 30 liter castrol per year for a practical price of 300€/year.
A legal claim will cost a lot and will take all your energy.
Moreover, in 2 years my car will be closed to 200000kms and it will be easier for me to get rid off for nothing.

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