New engine needed in 2016 XC90

[tmschall]

Originally Posted by Quaffwine

It’s strikes me that this is a major consumption issue seen on loads of petrol ones in the states. Lots of horror stories about new engines being needed to feel with cylinder scarring etc and huge engine oil consumption. It was corrected in mid 2016 although I don’t know what week. It does effect SPA cars despite what some might argue here.

My advice would be to chase the dealer for Volvo to pay the entire amount and be bullish and litigious about it. It has full Volvo history. I don’t know what the mileage is but would guess it might be approaching 100k miles?

Go over to swede speed and look up engine oil consumptions on the spa section

Hello, thanks for your response. I think you are right. Our engine must have been one of the older models.

[tmschall]

Originally Posted by Clan

you need to know that volvo brought out just the bottom half of the engine to greatly reduce the cost of this job it will be exchange , Did they quote for that ? They would have to take the head off your original head and fit that to the new cylinder block assembly ...

The cheapest option is a new set of pistons and rings ! they went for the most expensive option .

try a rural dealer such as Keith Price Garages Abergavenny or FRF in swansea , well worth getting the train do get the job done right at the right price..

Thanks for your help! Do you happen to know anyone in the midlands who could do the job?

[tmschall]

Originally Posted by Clan

you need to know that volvo brought out just the bottom half of the engine to greatly reduce the cost of this job it will be exchange , Did they quote for that ? They would have to take the head off your original head and fit that to the new cylinder block assembly ...

The cheapest option is a new set of pistons and rings ! they went for the most expensive option .

try a rural dealer such as Keith Price Garages Abergavenny or FRF in swansea , well worth getting the train do get the job done right at the right price..

I just spoke to the team at Keith Price's garage. Unfortunately with our model and year, they can not just replace the short block, they would need to replace the entire engine, and it would cost them about the same. Grh!

[Clan]

Originally Posted by tmschall

I just spoke to the team at Keith Price's garage. Unfortunately with our model and year, they can not just replace the short block, they would need to replace the entire engine, and it would cost them about the same. Grh!

that's a disappointment ....

[GrahamHR]

That really is disappointing for such a young car, a design fault by the OEM rendering the engine to fail at an unreasonably low mileage. 1970's car engines, 40 years ago used to last at least 60,000 miles. It's not unreasonable to expect modern engines to last much longer.

Was there a class action in the USA about this ? Surprising if there isn't/ wasn't.

I remember a very dangerous Volvo V70 failure of an air flow sensor that caused the engine to go into limp home mode regardless of the speed the car was at the time; worst example for us, my wife driving the car at 70mph in the outside lane of the A55; thankfully she and our 7 year old daughter made it to the hard shoulder.

Well known issue at the time .

Volvo USA; total recall of all affected vehicles, modified part fitted free of charge

Volvo UK; replacement if it failed.

Pretty bad Volvo UK attitude towards customers in the UK then, about 20 years+ ago, has it changed ?

[Familyman 90]

If its a design fault, then why don't a significant number go the same way?

A swallow does not make a spring, as you British say.

Most likely a simple manifacturing defect on one particular component on thismparticular engine, else they'd be dropping off their perch in greater numbers.

There is also a duty of care placed upon the vehicles operator to check the oil weekly, and before embarking upon a long journey, and this is the advice in the handbook. We can only speculate as we have no genuine knowledge of the cars previous life, but such dilligence by a driver would capture this issue before it became a fatal problem.

How many never lift a bonnet from one service to the next and then complain when something fails? This could well be the sort of chap the previous owner was, hence it ran low, damage was done, and our poor OP gets saddled with the aftermath.

In that case its a little unfair to be too hard on Volvo - yes, there's a fault, but due dilligence expected of a reasonable owner may well have spotted it before it became a terminal problem, whereupon action should be taken. Indeed, it may well have been spotted, and the previous owner decided to punt it on rather than take any steps to remedy it.

Thats a likely scenario, but fundamentally we don't know, so its not really fair to make snidey comments about the UK importer when there is little evidence they themselves have done anything amiss.

[tmschall]

Hi folks. Either way, it seems like a manufacturer's defect to me. I don't feel it's fair to us to have pay for replacement of the engine if it was a defect of the engine from that particular time period. Is this a reasonable thought? Do you feel we have room to argue with Volvo to pay for the entire cost of the engine replacement?

[Clan]

Originally Posted by tmschall

Hi folks. Either way, it seems like a manufacturer's defect to me. I don't feel it's fair to us to have pay for replacement of the engine if it was a defect of the engine from that particular time period. Is this a reasonable thought? Do you feel we have room to argue with Volvo to pay for the entire cost of the engine replacement?

I would seek advice from the motor ombudsman ... nothing to loose

[andy_d]

Originally Posted by Clan

I would seek advice from the motor ombudsman ... nothing to loose

exactly that, price of a stamp or to got to be worth a try *less cost if email is available

[GrahamHR]

Originally Posted by Familyman 90

If is a design fault, then why don't a significant number go the same way?

A lot of the earlier 4 cylinder engines do in the USA, on a depressingly frequent rate apparently.

How many never lift a bonnet from one service to the next and then complain when something fails? This could well be the sort of chap the previous owner was, hence it ran low, damage was done, and our poor OP gets saddled with the aftermath.


Never heard of such issues with the old 5 and 6 cylinder engines, owned by the same sort of owners in the US.

so its not really fair to make snidey comments about the UK importer when there is little evidence they themselves have done anything amiss.

Not "snidey" at all, but based on facts.

Volvo UK response to the old V70 MAF issue; based on personal experience/ a fact