Test drive today

Lexman8 · Feb 5th, 2016, 12:51

Had a test drive this morning of a Momentum T6 on 20" wheels with Conti tyres. I'd asked for a drive on 19" wheels but they'd been changed over the previous day. Have to say I was disappointed with the 'jiggly' nature of the ride and the overall noise and resonance/drumming on the 20". I was expecting far better from a premium car and I don't think I could live with it as it is. I also found the gear change slightly odd in that it seemed to only hold 1st for a fraction of a second then there was a noticeable shift to 2nd. Again, I was expecting something smoother from a modern box. The shifts higher up seemed okay. Kick-down produced a lot of engine noise.

Unfortunately the salesman was new to Volvo and could tell me very little about the car (he's going on a course on Monday). I eventually spoke to the sales manager who is going to try to sort out a drive on 19" wheels but he says that all the cars they're getting in over the next few months have 20".

On the positive side, I was generally impressed with the dashboard and particularly liked the large central screen. I think I need an extended drive to help me decide.

Deman77 · Feb 5th, 2016, 14:35

I had similar feedback from my test drive back in summer (also with inexperienced sales guy, but annoyingly he kept trykng to convince me I was wrong). Surprisingly noisy wheels and hesitant great box at low speeds. Still ended up buying the car - it's hard to override all the positives. You don't get used to motorway road noise i notice it every time - it is too loud for such a refined car but mine is a suburban warrior so I don't get to hear it that often. I am hoping polestar will help out with the low speed gearbox changes. Getting that done in a couple of weeks.

If you are going back you are probably on the hook - can't blame you. The important thing is to recognise the shortcomings and knowingly accept them if you go for it then you will be very happy with it (unless you get one with electric faults or leaky sunroof or....). Mine has every option imaginable and nothing has gone wrong so far since September, but I am crossing my fingers quietly as it's going for the first software update.

NewVolvo · Feb 7th, 2016, 22:09

The new XC90 is known to "need" air suspension to get rid of the noise.....expensive perhaps, but well worth it!

Driven the D5 with air suspension and while the engine is underpowered, the ride was superb. Better go for the T6 or even the T8!

Philip Fisher · Feb 8th, 2016, 08:10

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Originally Posted by NewVolvo

The new XC90 is known to "need" air suspension to get rid of the noise.....expensive perhaps, but well worth it!

Driven the D5 with air suspension and while the engine is underpowered, the ride was superb. Better go for the T6 or even the T8!

Hi. I thought that the noise was tyre brand and profile related and not suspension (air or normal) related. Can I ask where you get your information from please? Everything i have read has referred to noise from 20in contis and nothing about air suspension......

Deman77 · Feb 8th, 2016, 10:18

I'm on air. It does not solve the road noise problem.

NewVolvo · Feb 8th, 2016, 16:28

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Originally Posted by Philip Fisher

Hi. I thought that the noise was tyre brand and profile related and not suspension (air or normal) related. Can I ask where you get your information from please? Everything i have read has referred to noise from 20in contis and nothing about air suspension......

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Originally Posted by Deman77

I'm on air. It does not solve the road noise problem.

My info comes from a friend in Sweden who own a D5 of that limited version (the inital one) and the swedish sales woman. Perhaps a sales trick by her, but personally i would never buy the new XC90 without air suspension. It does make any car handle and ride as its ment to be.

The road noise is probably due to the tarmac used in the UK. The XC90 i drove was on smooth Swedish roads (not that all are smooth though). Its the same when i am over in the UK with my own car, much more noisy than in say France, Holland etc.

The conti's are normally a nice and quiet tyre and i think that the only way to get rid of it as much as possible would be to go down the smaller wheels road...(no pun intended).

Deman77 · Feb 8th, 2016, 16:45

Bad tarmac or not xc90 emphasises the noise on concrete sections of m25 like no other car I've been in even though it's quieter than other cars elsewhere, though not as quiet as one would expect for the money. In my book it's a small road noise problem and a serious resonance issue.

Lexman8 · Feb 8th, 2016, 17:32

Well, I didn't get the promised phone calls from either the salesman nor the sales manager. Not impressed.

Looks like I'll be visiting the Lexus dealer again. They know how to look after customers.

Lexman8 · Feb 8th, 2016, 19:16

Update: I got a call this evening from the original sales guy I saw last Wednesday (he'd been away since). He sorted things out and I'm doing another test drive on Thu with 19" wheels fitted.

Lexman8 · Feb 11th, 2016, 15:39

Got a call to say that they couldn't source a car with 19" wheels locally.

Salesman offered to arrange for Volvo UK to deliver one to me for a 48 hour test drive. This should be towards the end of next week.

Getting there slowly.

Feb 5th, 2016, 12:51	#1
Lexman8 Premier Member Last Online: Today 08:13 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Yorkshire	Test drive today Had a test drive this morning of a Momentum T6 on 20" wheels with Conti tyres. I'd asked for a drive on 19" wheels but they'd been changed over the previous day. Have to say I was disappointed with the 'jiggly' nature of the ride and the overall noise and resonance/drumming on the 20". I was expecting far better from a premium car and I don't think I could live with it as it is. I also found the gear change slightly odd in that it seemed to only hold 1st for a fraction of a second then there was a noticeable shift to 2nd. Again, I was expecting something smoother from a modern box. The shifts higher up seemed okay. Kick-down produced a lot of engine noise. Unfortunately the salesman was new to Volvo and could tell me very little about the car (he's going on a course on Monday). I eventually spoke to the sales manager who is going to try to sort out a drive on 19" wheels but he says that all the cars they're getting in over the next few months have 20". On the positive side, I was generally impressed with the dashboard and particularly liked the large central screen. I think I need an extended drive to help me decide.

Feb 7th, 2016, 22:09	#3
NewVolvo VOC Member Last Online: Oct 23rd, 2022 19:52 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Köln, Germany View Photos By: NewVolvo	The new XC90 is known to "need" air suspension to get rid of the noise.....expensive perhaps, but well worth it! Driven the D5 with air suspension and while the engine is underpowered, the ride was superb. Better go for the T6 or even the T8! __________________ 2019 XC60 T6 R-Design 2017 S6 Avant 1996 850R 1987 780 Bertone Lots of previous Volvo's

Feb 5th, 2016, 14:35	#2
Deman77 Master Member Last Online: Apr 1st, 2022 14:14 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Greater London	I had similar feedback from my test drive back in summer (also with inexperienced sales guy, but annoyingly he kept trykng to convince me I was wrong). Surprisingly noisy wheels and hesitant great box at low speeds. Still ended up buying the car - it's hard to override all the positives. You don't get used to motorway road noise i notice it every time - it is too loud for such a refined car but mine is a suburban warrior so I don't get to hear it that often. I am hoping polestar will help out with the low speed gearbox changes. Getting that done in a couple of weeks. If you are going back you are probably on the hook - can't blame you. The important thing is to recognise the shortcomings and knowingly accept them if you go for it then you will be very happy with it (unless you get one with electric faults or leaky sunroof or....). Mine has every option imaginable and nothing has gone wrong so far since September, but I am crossing my fingers quietly as it's going for the first software update.

Feb 8th, 2016, 10:18	#5
Deman77 Master Member Last Online: Apr 1st, 2022 14:14 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Greater London	I'm on air. It does not solve the road noise problem.

Feb 8th, 2016, 16:45	#7
Deman77 Master Member Last Online: Apr 1st, 2022 14:14 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Greater London	Bad tarmac or not xc90 emphasises the noise on concrete sections of m25 like no other car I've been in even though it's quieter than other cars elsewhere, though not as quiet as one would expect for the money. In my book it's a small road noise problem and a serious resonance issue.

Feb 8th, 2016, 17:32	#8
Lexman8 Premier Member Last Online: Today 08:13 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Yorkshire	Well, I didn't get the promised phone calls from either the salesman nor the sales manager. Not impressed. Looks like I'll be visiting the Lexus dealer again. They know how to look after customers.

Feb 8th, 2016, 19:16	#9
Lexman8 Premier Member Last Online: Today 08:13 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Yorkshire	Update: I got a call this evening from the original sales guy I saw last Wednesday (he'd been away since). He sorted things out and I'm doing another test drive on Thu with 19" wheels fitted.

Feb 11th, 2016, 15:39	#10
Lexman8 Premier Member Last Online: Today 08:13 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Yorkshire	Got a call to say that they couldn't source a car with 19" wheels locally. Salesman offered to arrange for Volvo UK to deliver one to me for a 48 hour test drive. This should be towards the end of next week. Getting there slowly.

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