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Old Feb 24th, 2021, 18:08   #1
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Hi all, is my 2006 C70 2.4i auto gearbox sealed? Does the oil need to be changed at any point?
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Old Feb 24th, 2021, 19:20   #2
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Transmission fluid should be changed. It doesn't have to be changed every single year, but definitely something that you should do every so often throughout your ownership to prolong the life of the transmission.

Volvo & other manufacturers claim the transmission's in their vehicles are "sealed" or "sealed for life", yet they have drain plugs...

The fluid can be drained, as there's a drain plug... so "sealed" is a load of rubbish. There isn't an interval as such for changing the fluid, as Volvo (and other companies) don't suggest changing it at all. This is misleading, as servicing your transmission will definitely help it. You wouldn't own a car & never change the engine oil... why they think its okay with the transmission is beyond me.

Make sure you use the correct spec fluid for your car & nothing else. To answer your question... YES... CHANGE THE FLUID.

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Volvo itself does acknowledge the need to change the ATF, but only in cases of 'arduous operations', as it terms it (hot, dusty, taxis, towing - I may have made one of those up, but you get the drift), and IIRC on a remarkably short cycle like 24K miles.

...and yet says nothings required for normal operation, which is simply nonsense, as evidenced by the majority of other marques which use the AW55 'box. So yes, do it.
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Volvo itself does acknowledge the need to change the ATF, but only in cases of 'arduous operations', as it terms it (hot, dusty, taxis, towing - I may have made one of those up, but you get the drift), and IIRC on a remarkably short cycle like 24K miles.

...and yet says nothings required for normal operation, which is simply nonsense, as evidenced by the majority of other marques which use the AW55 'box. So yes, do it.
36000 miles actually :-)
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Transmission fluid should be changed. It doesn't have to be changed every single year, but definitely something that you should do every so often throughout your ownership to prolong the life of the transmission.

Volvo & other manufacturers claim the transmission's in their vehicles are "sealed" or "sealed for life", yet they have drain plugs...

The fluid can be drained, as there's a drain plug... so "sealed" is a load of rubbish. There isn't an interval as such for changing the fluid, as Volvo (and other companies) don't suggest changing it at all. This is misleading, as servicing your transmission will definitely help it. You wouldn't own a car & never change the engine oil... why they think its okay with the transmission is beyond me.

Make sure you use the correct spec fluid for your car & nothing else. To answer your question... YES... CHANGE THE FLUID.


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At no time have volvo ever claimed their transmission is sealed for life !
In fact there is an optional service schedule for it ... Its unfortunate that very few take this up ....
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At no time have volvo ever claimed their transmission is sealed for life !
In fact there is an optional service schedule for it ... Its unfortunate that very few take this up ....
Yes they do claim the transmission is sealed. Dealers don’t even mention this “optional” service you’re talking about. In fact, most dealerships say “You don’t need to do that” when you mention a transmission fluid change.
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Yes they do claim the transmission is sealed. Dealers don’t even mention this “optional” service you’re talking about. In fact, most dealerships say “You don’t need to do that” when you mention a transmission fluid change.
show me your evidence ? It's in the VIDA service requirements ...

yes unfortunately with the high rate of service adviser staff turnover and not getting the same one two years in a row they will never get it right ..
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show me your evidence ? It's in the VIDA service requirements ...

yes unfortunately with the high rate of service adviser staff turnover and not getting the same one two years in a row they will never get it right ..
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At no time have volvo ever claimed their transmission is sealed for life !
In fact there is an optional service schedule for it ... Its unfortunate that very few take this up ....
If its in the VIDA service requirements, why is it “optional”?

If its in the service requirements, it should be mandatory.

Evidence? How about dealerships telling people the transmission fluid doesn’t need to be changed.
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show me your evidence ? It's in the VIDA service requirements ...

yes unfortunately with the high rate of service adviser staff turnover and not getting the same one two years in a row they will never get it right ..
Have to agree with Clan on the staff issue above. My experience of Main Dealers in my area has been very, very poor.

I've always found that the service advisor knows very little about the product; far less than I do on almost every occasion. Why do they seem to recruit people who have no interest in Volvos? I guess they look at it as just a sales role?

But then I assume I am not their target audience. I get the feeling the dealer is only interested in you leasing the car, servicing it as told, then changing it after three years for another on a lease deal. People like me who are often the 3rd, 4th, 5th owners with higher mileage vehicles don't figure in the business model, as we are more likely to use independents for our work anyway.

I feel totally alienated at a Main Dealer and it shouldn't be like that. Volvo don't have to sell me a car, as I'm not going anywhere else! In the future, hopefully I'll be driving a V90CC (once the XC70 is no longer) then the electric equivalent after that.

However, some of the parts guys I've dealt with are excellent. FRF Swansea (Simon etc.) are exceptional as you probably all know. Always go the extra mile.

My localish Volvo dealer, Donald's in Colchester, have an annual open day where our local VOC can meet and the techs are on hand to put your car on a ramp and just chat. Great initiative and really builds trust. I'll give them a try next time I need any main dealer work.

I'm sure lots of people who work for Volvo are like me, passionate about the brand, but I've not met many. Probably this is not just confined to Volvo, it's industrywide. I'm naive enought to think it's about the cars but like everything else, it's just about sales.

Anyway, off to change the ATF on my C70. Good discussion all. Very enjoyable.
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Old Feb 24th, 2021, 21:45   #10
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Hi all, is my 2006 C70 2.4i auto gearbox sealed? Does the oil need to be changed at any point?
depending on how it has been driven, kind of traffic its been in,, etc etc
somewhere between 80k-100k miles = look to change it

All the advice says
"Do NOT have a Power flush performed"
"Do NOT use flusing fluids"
"Do use the Correct spec ATF"




the "gibbons" method where you take 3l (ISH) out of the transmission sump + refill with The exact amount you took out , check levels, drive (varies between a 100/200/400 you choose) then do it again, for a total of 3 dumps/refills
is the General consensus on these autoboxes.



Most of the Other manufactures who use the AW55 box we have Do have a ATF change schedule.


best to get it done Before any issues start showing up as by the time they do it Maybe to late
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