164 front discs

WPR678B · Mar 21st, 2015, 20:29

I have a new pair of front discs to suit a Volvo 164 that I bought as suitable for a 145, but trust me, they aren't!!

They are made by ABS (All Brake Systems) part number 15913 and are still boxed but one has been fitted to the front hub of my 145 for a week so has some very light surface rust as pictured. They have not been used at all though, only trial fitted!

I would like £25 for the pair plus postage (they cost me £45 plus postage) and as they weigh in at approx 13kg the postage will be £23.14 by Parcelforce but collection is of course welcomed!

guitarman · Mar 21st, 2015, 23:17

Hummmm, may be interested, not sure these fit mine though.
There was a change from solid to ventilated discs on 164s at some point. The stud pattern looks volvoesque. How did you find out they were for the 164?

WPR678B · Mar 22nd, 2015, 09:28

They fit the hubs on my 145 fine, but there is about 1mm of difference on the "inset" and they are 1mm thicker than what should be fitted to my 145.

I Googled the make and part number stamped into the discs and Volvo 164 is the listed fitment for them.

Hope this helps?

Triple-S · Mar 22nd, 2015, 10:57

Jimmy, as your 164 is about the same age as my blue one I'd check to see if your front discs are ventilated, like mine. If so the calipers would be wider so solid discs would be too thin for your set-up.

P

john h · Mar 22nd, 2015, 21:06

Normally the carb 164 has solid discs and the faster 164E has ventilated discs.

They might have standardised vented near the end of production, I'm not sure, but certainly for several years both types of discs were offered, depending on engine power.

Nearly 30 years ago, I converted my first 164, a 1969 model, from solid to vented discs. It was very 'vigorously' driven, and I used to get a lot of noise and brake fade on the solid discs - completely cured when I fitted the 164E brakes.

John

guitarman · Mar 22nd, 2015, 21:22

Vented! Which may explain why I've never had so much as a pipsqueak from my brakes. Maybe these discs are for another variety of Volvo altogether, or they're rear discs.

guitarman · Mar 22nd, 2015, 21:25

....rear 164 discs (on mine with ATE calipers are 295.5 mm diameter, 9.6 mm thick disc, 84mm O/A thickness.

WPR678B · Mar 23rd, 2015, 18:59

They are front discs for sure as the rears would be machined for the handbrake shoes.
These measure 272mm diameter and are 14.4mm thick and are listed for Volvo 164's from 1968-74 but no mention of caliper type (Girling or ATE).
Hope this helps?

guitarman · Mar 23rd, 2015, 19:20

Looks like they are for early 164s then. Perhaps they went over to vented front discs when the car was face-lifted in '72. Best to put them on ebay I guess.

Mar 21st, 2015, 23:17	#2
guitarman Senior Member Last Online: Apr 28th, 2022 14:29 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Stroud	Hummmm, may be interested, not sure these fit mine though. There was a change from solid to ventilated discs on 164s at some point. The stud pattern looks volvoesque. How did you find out they were for the 164? __________________ 1973 Volvo 164. 1972 Saab 96 1988 Benz W124 230E 2012 VW Transporter T5 LWB

Mar 22nd, 2015, 09:28	#3
WPR678B Ex 145 owner Last Online: Oct 28th, 2023 16:26 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dorset	They fit the hubs on my 145 fine, but there is about 1mm of difference on the "inset" and they are 1mm thicker than what should be fitted to my 145. I Googled the make and part number stamped into the discs and Volvo 164 is the listed fitment for them. Hope this helps? __________________

Mar 22nd, 2015, 21:06	#5
john h VOC Member Last Online: Yesterday 17:34 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Huddersfield View Photos By: john h	Normally the carb 164 has solid discs and the faster 164E has ventilated discs. They might have standardised vented near the end of production, I'm not sure, but certainly for several years both types of discs were offered, depending on engine power. Nearly 30 years ago, I converted my first 164, a 1969 model, from solid to vented discs. It was very 'vigorously' driven, and I used to get a lot of noise and brake fade on the solid discs - completely cured when I fitted the 164E brakes. John __________________ XX

Mar 22nd, 2015, 21:22	#6
guitarman Senior Member Last Online: Apr 28th, 2022 14:29 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Stroud	Vented! Which may explain why I've never had so much as a pipsqueak from my brakes. Maybe these discs are for another variety of Volvo altogether, or they're rear discs. __________________ 1973 Volvo 164. 1972 Saab 96 1988 Benz W124 230E 2012 VW Transporter T5 LWB

Mar 22nd, 2015, 21:25	#7
guitarman Senior Member Last Online: Apr 28th, 2022 14:29 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Stroud	....rear 164 discs (on mine with ATE calipers are 295.5 mm diameter, 9.6 mm thick disc, 84mm O/A thickness. __________________ 1973 Volvo 164. 1972 Saab 96 1988 Benz W124 230E 2012 VW Transporter T5 LWB

Mar 22nd, 2015, 10:57	#4
Triple-S How Old? Last Online: May 31st, 2021 12:28 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: redhill	Jimmy, as your 164 is about the same age as my blue one I'd check to see if your front discs are ventilated, like mine. If so the calipers would be wider so solid discs would be too thin for your set-up. P

Mar 23rd, 2015, 18:59	#8
WPR678B Ex 145 owner Last Online: Oct 28th, 2023 16:26 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dorset	They are front discs for sure as the rears would be machined for the handbrake shoes. These measure 272mm diameter and are 14.4mm thick and are listed for Volvo 164's from 1968-74 but no mention of caliper type (Girling or ATE). Hope this helps? __________________

Mar 23rd, 2015, 19:20	#9
guitarman Senior Member Last Online: Apr 28th, 2022 14:29 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Stroud	Looks like they are for early 164s then. Perhaps they went over to vented front discs when the car was face-lifted in '72. Best to put them on ebay I guess. __________________ 1973 Volvo 164. 1972 Saab 96 1988 Benz W124 230E 2012 VW Transporter T5 LWB

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