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D5 engine used without oil. Very sad :-(

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Old Jul 17th, 2021, 13:43   #11
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that guy on that video mr richard head need some mechanical sense punching in to him what a tool
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Old Jul 17th, 2021, 21:35   #13
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Yeah completely bonkers to subsidize to destroy decent cars
They think that pumping around money is better than efficiently use already produced quality goods.
Its the other way around ...you can destroy money without destroying total wealth
Wealth is in already build things not worthless paper perceived as wealth
Watch your hunchbacked prime minister with that funny hair.... that lying creep tricked conservatives to vote for him and that buffoon is already selling them out with communist ideas disguised in green.

My point was that some engines can realy take some abuse before they are broken...... ive seen some american cars who stalled out in just 20 seconds with this treatment
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How on earth did the mechanic or whoever ran it not notice the warning messages and lights expressing the fact that there was no oil pressure?

Anyway, as has been said they need to put it back to the condition it was in before the incident happened. New or low mileage engine and turbo in my opinion.
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Old Jul 19th, 2021, 15:32   #15
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I've spoken to another main dealership and they were most surprised too.

They said it has to be a new engine at the main dealer at faults expense.

Four of four engine rebuilders said new engine and associated parts.

One independent insurance assessor said new engine at dealers expense.

One independent engineer/assessor said find a used engine and ask the dealer to fit it!

The Dealer Principal is back from his holidays today and although he said he has no technical knowledge he thought it'll be fine once it has been road tested.

Or perhaps they could fit a used engine.

He kindly offered to arrange an independent engineers report.

We are still without a towcar and have a big road trip planned.

Although 10 years old the car has never missed a beat, we even had the belts done a year early 'just in case' and the transmission service done 12 months ago.

I know that the engine would achieve 200k easily with correct servicing and that is precisely why we bought it as our first new Volvo.

I'm getting increasingly frustrated
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I've spoken to another main dealership and they were most surprised too.

They said it has to be a new engine at the main dealer at faults expense.

Four of four engine rebuilders said new engine and associated parts.

One independent insurance assessor said new engine at dealers expense.

One independent engineer/assessor said find a used engine and ask the dealer to fit it!

The Dealer Principal is back from his holidays today and although he said he has no technical knowledge he thought it'll be fine once it has been road tested.

Or perhaps they could fit a used engine.

He kindly offered to arrange an independent engineers report.

We are still without a towcar and have a big road trip planned.

Although 10 years old the car has never missed a beat, we even had the belts done a year early 'just in case' and the transmission service done 12 months ago.

I know that the engine would achieve 200k easily with correct servicing and that is precisely why we bought it as our first new Volvo.

I'm getting increasingly frustrated
I think subject to hearing back you need to get in writing that you expect a replacement engine. I would also advise you require a vehicle to tow your rig.
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A solicitor’s letter to them explaining that only a new engine, turbo and anything else that touches oil will be acceptable to you. Plus a suitable loan car for your big trip while they fix it.
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Totally get your feelings, and yes the D5 with good maintenance even improves with age!..a dealer technician once told me they were bulletproof.. and not far wrong but plenty of opportunity on the servicing side to mess up 😀

Do they still have the vehicle (hopefully they do), i would suggest getting an independant expert/engineer to visit and assess the car (although this may not be easy as i suspect were you to collect and drive it away there would be a catalogue of upcoming engine distress heading your way). If you need to legally persue the garage an expert report or 2 would certainly be required, i suspect once they realise you are prepared to persue them unless a satisfactory fix is found they may decide the legal cost on top of the claim might be worth doing the right thing.. but it wont be quick to resolve and will probably involve loan vehicles while the situ heads to court so the total bill is likely to be a lot more than the engine cost.. suspect someone on here with a legal background may better able to assist, but have been down this road many years ago..
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I think the issue with an engineers report (and the garage are maybe been clever here) is what are they going to find?????

Bore wear? I doubt it. With residual oil and the fact it’s now running it would appear to not have that.

Compression across the 5 cylinders? The specification for that is open any way.

Is the turbo holding boost (probably).

My issue with an engineers report is hearing camshaft ticking or valve wear, replacing the items FOC then finding 2 years down the line at 80k it’s shafted.
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even a low mileage replacement is a lottery it might be ok or have its own problems stick to your guns demand a new engine im angry at your garage and its not even my car grrr.
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