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Oct 19th, 2014, 22:45 | #11 |
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Well after spending another weekend pulling the gearbox, clutch and flywheel I found the crankshaft seal leaking badly. part of the seal turned itself inside out. The original problem was the core plug see below:-
After the seal failed I decided to try again this time making an insertion tool and try again see below:- using a rawl anchor expanded into spigot hole (somethingI used toremove spigotbearings) pulling the seal into place:- Well after all that you would think job done but it started leaking again immediately. When I took the seal out I couldn't find a spring. It was only when I looked at the replacement seal I realised that the updated seal volvo brought out (part number 31339213) doesn't have a spring and is a pretty flimsy thing compared to the original (part number 9458178) which is like a double seal with a spring! The only thing I think I could have done wrong is not pull the seal in far enough as i left it flush with the housing and I'm not sure if it should of gone in further. I'm going to have to bite the bullet and send it to a garage with the proper insertion tool (part number 9997174) which hurts me a lot as I've always manged to dothings like this myself!! |
Oct 20th, 2014, 19:50 | #12 |
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I'm gutted for you as I know exactly how you feel. Is there no chance of you borrowing the tool you need from your local Volvo dealer/indy? Hom much does the tool cost to buy? Could you not buy it,then sell it on again when done?
What exactly does it do differently to the insertion tool that you made? Paul. |
Oct 21st, 2014, 09:08 | #13 |
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I'm not 100% sure what the difference is as I've never seen the proper insertion tool but I think there is some sort of tapered edge plate that bolts onto the end of the crankshaft. When the seal is being pushed in it opens up and slides smoothly over the taper and onto the crank without catching an edge and damaging the seal. It also seems to have a bell housing which contains the whole thing and guides it in. If anyone can post some decent pictures of one I might have a go at doing something similar.
I asked about borrowing one but they refused as a matter of policy - can't blame them really. I googled the tool part number (9997174) and the only thing I came up with was in America and it was for a Landrover would you believe - exactly the same tool!! |
Oct 21st, 2014, 23:08 | #14 |
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Bad luck mate, I know these large diameter seals can be more tricky.
I placed mine in and tapped it and it skewed instantly - I paniced and got it out again and the spring had 1/3 come off. I was shocked how easy it was to get it wrong. I refitted the spring and had another go, it skewed again when almost fully in, I manged to straighten tapping the high side. Went with that. Ive done about 6k so far fine ... Good luck, make sure the spring isnt on the crankshaft !! |
Mar 28th, 2020, 13:11 | #15 |
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Rear Crankshaft oil seal tool
So thanks to the Coronavirus I've now got plenty of time to jack up the car and take the gearbox off to replace the RCS that has been leaking since I bought my 2005 V70 on the cheap.
Turns out after putting it back together the oil leak is now worse, so I've taken the gearbox off again and it's attempt no.2! Reckon there are two causes; 1.) Used oil to lubricate the seal before installation. 2.) Didn't use an installation tool. So I'm looking for any recommendations on installation including measurements of the tool to make on my lathe (the previous link isn't working anymore). Thanks |
Mar 28th, 2020, 13:16 | #16 | |
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You really must use the special tool to fit the new type seal it holds the seal away from the Crankshaft whilst you fit the seal , the lip is probably turned over on itself .
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Mar 28th, 2020, 15:41 | #18 |
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I would recommend asking FRF for a price for the correct tool as they have been one of the few dealers who will supply the Volvo workshop tools to retail customers.
I've had 3 workshop tools from them now which usually take a week to arrive as they're not stock items and arrive direct from Sweden. All of them were overpriced for what they are but the important thing is that they are correct, work exactly as required and can always be sold on or hired out to mitigate costs.
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Mar 28th, 2020, 17:52 | #19 | |
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Thanks for your comments 😊 Yes the Volvo special tool for the rear crankshaft seal 999 7174 is available from any volvo parts counter . don't take no for an answer , Its them being lazy if they give any excuse . I would guess the price is £50 - £70 but yes worth it's weight in gold . Its very rare a volvo rear crankshaft ever leaks , it is normal for them to be bone dry . Keep Safe , Clan
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Mar 28th, 2020, 22:57 | #20 |
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Very interesting to read this as i intend on replacing the dmf/and slave cylinder in the next few months,i bought the core plug from volvo but got the rear crank seal a quality german-Elring make from my local engine recon place,i cant remember whether the seal is a new type or not,but if it's the old style with a spring and 2 lips would the special tool still be required,or could it be drifted in carefully.I did the front seal last year and remember it was an absolute pig to do with the spring flipping back on itself a few times,before i concocted a thin plastic sleeve to help it in
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