suspention upgrades

[kieran40]

Op just take a crash helmet,and play panzierlied on the stereo and you will be good,also wear tuv approved brown underpants.

The panzerlied http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=awehbFe3P3U

[stuartrf]

Skyship007 please stop replying on this I understand that all paperwork needs to be in order and the car needs to be good
But you are raising issues that won't asked and arnt related to the question
Please stop replying

[druid]

Originally Posted by kieran40

Op just take a crash helmet,and play panzierlied on the stereo and you will be good,also wear tuv approved brown underpants.

The panzerlied http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=awehbFe3P3U

WHY! wtf is that!

[kieran40]

It's a German marching song Druid

[Antz]

Originally Posted by skyship007

I never said the OP should not do the "nurburgring" with his modified "suspention" and Yoko Panda tyres.
It's daft to say the OP's car is up to the job, unless you are a fully qualified inspector who has checked the car concerned (Most good tuners tend to avoid the GDI for obvious mostly engine related reasons, so the odds are against it passing a pre race inspection).

My comments about safety and insurance matters are valid, as any major German race track will check the papers and tyres in some detail if the car has overseas plates, unless it's an escorted tour.

The accident rates for non German drivers on the autobahn are very bad, partly because they have never done any type of high speed drivers training course, have a nasty habit of driving old family type cars with bad brakes and suspension systems.
If you get stopped by the Cops, the first thing they will look at is the tyres and one sight of out of season or all weather tyres will get them very interested in a detailed check of the rest of the car and papers. If it's a green VW Police van that pulls you over in the Stuttgart area, they will even do a quick emissions test!

If anyone does want to tune their V40 the optimum way, there is very little point asking how to do it in a V40 classic forum, as all you seem to get is daft replies from boy or girl racers who think that far Eastern Fleabay parts thrown together at random will produce a safe, reliable, long lasting and insurable result.

There are a variety of options listed by Volvo and fully documented that are a good starting point. If your local Volvo stealer is a friendly one and not busy, they might even give you a list of some valid combinations. The ZF/Sachs site also lists a series of Volvo approved mods and I'm sure there must be a few equivalent VIN specific sites for similar UK parts or tuning companies, although many UK tuners tend to use the English version of German parts sites for info, as they are more reliable.

In reality for an older V40 the entire suspension and braking system might well need to be rebuilt for the best results. If you do the job yourself, it's a real good idea to get a good tuning center to do a final inspection and alignment job. I suppose you might get lucky and find a forum member who has done a fully documented (Or U tubed) tuning job that produces real good cornering and stopping distance figures, but I've not seen one yet.

PS: Does anyone know what the differences are between the phase 1 and 2 (Or T4) braking systems, as the Haynes book of Porkie Pies seems to imply they are the same.
I have a bad habit of making comments based on P2 V40's, which have a real good braking system (IF, it is restored correctly to current Volvo dealer standards, which often requires new or recon rear calipers and other parts), that few boy, girl or tranny racers will be able to beat, even if they have top of the range winter Conti's (The Cops also like Dun's, Goodyear and even the odd non fuel economy Michellin) fitted for an off season German ring or autobahn session.
The autobahn is often faster in some unlimited sections on a Sunday than most race tracks.

The last time I hit 100 mph on the way to Munich, I got passed by two German made cars who must have been doing around the 200 mph mark. The second top of the range Merc was an unmarked Police car (Rare in Germany), who probably had a real good tow away ticket for the chaps in the tuned BMW (Nitro smoke special something), as they were not in an unrestricted section due to road works! The Police Merc was not trying to stop the boy racers, just following until a short traffic jam did the job for them. They were charged with dangerous driving and the car impounded for a full TUV Sud inspection. Every time the owners turn up to get their car back it will cost them 100 Euros per attempt to pass the inspection and emissions test. Odds on it will cost several grand in engine and other un-Mod's before the nit picking regional inspector signs it off.

So be careful what you do when visting Germany in a tuned V40!

Originally Posted by skyship007

AHHHH! Not the jumper chewing EVO sales girl again!

I give up, even though I'm stuck in a Missery state motel due to heavy mud. My tuned Ford van is OK, but it will take a while for some local flooding to drain. Kansas city next!

Words cannot explain the above.absurd might cover it but it's not strong enough
You know sometimes you read something and think "did they really just say that or have they farted?" well you just full on verbal diarrhea'd. By trying to sound smart all you're doing is ****ing everyone off and sounding like a complete tool.

Anyway back on topic. Just make sure it's all in good order, some aftermarket good quality springs, good sticky tyres, good condition brakes with maybe grooved and drilled, front strut brace and you'll be fine. After that it can get expensive in other mods which you said you don't want to expand into and s fair comment.

Learn as much as you can of the track. That'll help you more than any mod. Locals always drive quicker because they know the roads, that happens anywhere.

[kieran40]

Statiscally British and Dutch drivers are among the best

[stuartrf]

Thank you for your replys (well some of you)
Tyres will be good
suspention has been cheaks and will be fully aligned
I will keep an eye out for grooved disks either for the evo kit or v40 system

I think it's proabibly good if this topic is forgotten about now

[mitchyboy01]

Originally Posted by skyship007

I never said the OP should not do the "nurburgring" with his modified "suspention" and Yoko Panda tyres.
It's daft to say the OP's car is up to the job, unless you are a fully qualified inspector who has checked the car concerned (Most good tuners tend to avoid the GDI for obvious mostly engine related reasons, so the odds are against it passing a pre race inspection).

My comments about safety and insurance matters are valid, as any major German race track will check the papers and tyres in some detail if the car has overseas plates, unless it's an escorted tour.

The accident rates for non German drivers on the autobahn are very bad, partly because they have never done any type of high speed drivers training course, have a nasty habit of driving old family type cars with bad brakes and suspension systems.
If you get stopped by the Cops, the first thing they will look at is the tyres and one sight of out of season or all weather tyres will get them very interested in a detailed check of the rest of the car and papers. If it's a green VW Police van that pulls you over in the Stuttgart area, they will even do a quick emissions test!

If anyone does want to tune their V40 the optimum way, there is very little point asking how to do it in a V40 classic forum, as all you seem to get is daft replies from boy or girl racers who think that far Eastern Fleabay parts thrown together at random will produce a safe, reliable, long lasting and insurable result.

There are a variety of options listed by Volvo and fully documented that are a good starting point. If your local Volvo stealer is a friendly one and not busy, they might even give you a list of some valid combinations. The ZF/Sachs site also lists a series of Volvo approved mods and I'm sure there must be a few equivalent VIN specific sites for similar UK parts or tuning companies, although many UK tuners tend to use the English version of German parts sites for info, as they are more reliable.

In reality for an older V40 the entire suspension and braking system might well need to be rebuilt for the best results. If you do the job yourself, it's a real good idea to get a good tuning center to do a final inspection and alignment job. I suppose you might get lucky and find a forum member who has done a fully documented (Or U tubed) tuning job that produces real good cornering and stopping distance figures, but I've not seen one yet.

PS: Does anyone know what the differences are between the phase 1 and 2 (Or T4) braking systems, as the Haynes book of Porkie Pies seems to imply they are the same.
I have a bad habit of making comments based on P2 V40's, which have a real good braking system (IF, it is restored correctly to current Volvo dealer standards, which often requires new or recon rear calipers and other parts), that few boy, girl or tranny racers will be able to beat, even if they have top of the range winter Conti's (The Cops also like Dun's, Goodyear and even the odd non fuel economy Michellin) fitted for an off season German ring or autobahn session.
The autobahn is often faster in some unlimited sections on a Sunday than most race tracks.

The last time I hit 100 mph on the way to Munich, I got passed by two German made cars who must have been doing around the 200 mph mark. The second top of the range Merc was an unmarked Police car (Rare in Germany), who probably had a real good tow away ticket for the chaps in the tuned BMW (Nitro smoke special something), as they were not in an unrestricted section due to road works! The Police Merc was not trying to stop the boy racers, just following until a short traffic jam did the job for them. They were charged with dangerous driving and the car impounded for a full TUV Sud inspection. Every time the owners turn up to get their car back it will cost them 100 Euros per attempt to pass the inspection and emissions test. Odds on it will cost several grand in engine and other un-Mod's before the nit picking regional inspector signs it off.

So be careful what you do when visting Germany in a tuned V40!

Bell...... end.

[kieran40]

Originally Posted by stuartrf

Thank you for your replys (well some of you)
Tyres will be good
suspention has been cheaks and will be fully aligned
I will keep an eye out for grooved disks either for the evo kit or v40 system

I think it's proabibly good if this topic is forgotten about now

Their is just one thing, Have a good time mate and show those Germans

[skyship007]

Jumper chewer:
Anyway back on topic. Just make sure it's all in good order, some aftermarket good quality springs, good sticky tyres, good condition brakes with maybe grooved and drilled, front strut brace and you'll be fine. After that it can get expensive in other mods which you said you don't want to expand into and s fair comment.

Comments like that result in some readers thinking that tuning the braking and suspension system is easy. It sure as heck is not an easy thing to do, so try to be more specific about which parts are approved (There seem to be a lot of different spring & shock combinations) and which companies to buy from.
Many cheap far Eastern sticky tyres are dangerous in the wet and can be prone to high speed blow outs. Volvo dealers in countries where they drive a tad faster than the UK fit top of the range Continental tyres, although I have seen a few models with Michellins. Merc fit mostly top of the range Dunlops and if you do some real research, odds on it will confirm that selection.

I would stay away from cheap non standard discs, as they have been proven to be subject to casting faults, serious corrosion and chewing up the pads. Many test out worse than OEM flat discs.
Expensive ones do work, but only the Germans drive fast enough to need them in summer.

Don't forget the rear calipers are vital to correct ABS function!