XC60 Auto - Jerky/kangaroo behaviour at low speeds

[RDesign4Life]

These guys do fluid changes with an EDT machine and seem to know their stuff...

https://hortoncars.com/latest-news/v...arbox-repairs/

https://youtu.be/TNXHxKhwpxY

https://www.tyrepress.com/2018/04/ed...r-horton-cars/

[Simeon90]

Originally Posted by Drunk

check the egr. im assuming it only does it when its cold? mine did that, replaced the egr valve and cleaner the cooler, now its running perfect.

Nope, does it when cold and warm, but EGR probably knacked as they all seem to be..

Originally Posted by johnnyoro

Hi, I bought 15 ltrs of That Millers oil and it is the correct spec . The gearbox takes 7.5ltrs
Each dump on mine was 2.8 ltrs so I did five drains with a drive of 8 to 10 miles between
The difference was apparent from the first refill even my wife noticed the improvement.

Thanks for confirming the oil, I've ordered 15 litres too, so will crack on with the changes in the coming weeks.

Originally Posted by Kev0607

Well, you still can, but its not going to be cheap for a garage to do multiple drain and fills ... The price you got of £190 will be likely 3 litres of fluid and the rest is labour - One drain and fill. Don't be under the impression that for £190 you'll have crystal clear fluid, that's not the case.

Yeah I figured the £190 was just going to be one sump drop, the guy on the phone wasn't actually particularly helpful, didn't seem to know the specifics, not what you want from a so called specialist.

I have to say, having come from VAG cars to an XC90 and now an XC60, I find the Volvo specialists to be few and far between in comparison, and significantly less 'invested' in the cars. VAG guys are normally quite passionate about the cars and if you describe an issue they have often seen it in another vehicle so have a good starting point. Issues I've spoken to Volvo guys about are normally met with a shrug and a big quote to plug it in.

Indicative of the marque I suppose mind, Volvos are generally much pricier and more likely to be handed off to a main dealer.

[Simeon90]

Originally Posted by RDesign4Life

These guys do fluid changes with an EDT machine and seem to know their stuff...

https://hortoncars.com/latest-news/v...arbox-repairs/

Cheers, yeah saw them in the link earlier in this thread, bit too far away from me unfortunately. I was hoping the specialist here in Leeds or the guys in York would offer the same, but unfortunately not.

[Baffler]

How about these guys? https://www.dyrdalsgarageyork.co.uk/

[Stu B]

Originally Posted by Simeon90

I have to say, having come from VAG cars to an XC90 and now an XC60, I find the Volvo specialists to be few and far between in comparison, and significantly less 'invested' in the cars. VAG guys are normally quite passionate about the cars and if you describe an issue they have often seen it in another vehicle so have a good starting point. Issues I've spoken to Volvo guys about are normally met with a shrug and a big quote to plug it in.

Indicative of the marque I suppose mind, Volvos are generally much pricier and more likely to be handed off to a main dealer.

Hi Simeon, I came from a background of VW and older BMWs, I still own a few of those too, and found similar but always tend to do my own maintenance time permitting regardless. I would say you’ll find some great knowledge on this forum though and hopefully recommendations for specialists when you need them.

I’ve done a few DIY transmission fluid changes on my Volvos and have recently bought a V60 which will be getting the same treatment on the driveway in addition to the various AWD fluid changes that never get done at main dealers. If you can get your hands on a DICE unit and the VIDA software it makes maintaining a Volvo so much easier, it’s like VCDS for VAG if you’re familiar with that?

I’ll add a link to my previous V70 thread which pics and the process for the gearbox fluid change which might help. EGR wise I’ve never had issues but VIDA would be my route to diagnose if I did suspect a problem.

Have a look at post #5 onwards here. Make sure you can undo the fill plug, probably a T55 torx, before you drain anything

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=302878

All the best, Stu

[Simeon90]

Thanks Stu, your thread was very helpful. I have to say, most of the VW forums have died a death sadly after instagram etc came along, so it's nice to be on an active forum again Like you say, lots of useful info and guidance on here.

Yep, I've got the RossTech kit for VCDS, I looked at getting VIDA a couple of years back, but it all seemed a bit complicated in comparison, so never got it sorted. Cheapest quote I've had to plug in the XC60 is £135 so it's probably a good investment.

In the absence of an EML, I'm going to do the gearbox oil changes and just keep driving it. If there's an issue with EGR etc it'll soon rear its head properly and then I'll see if that warranty I paid for was worth it

[Baffler]

The beauty of the forum is our shared experiences...less egos running wild in here too.

If wish to perform your own diagnostics speak with Matthew Leavesley at https://svdns.info/

Good luck with the sump dumps...one of the safest methods albeit time consuming.

[Kev0607]

Originally Posted by Simeon90

Thanks Stu, your thread was very helpful. I have to say, most of the VW forums have died a death sadly after instagram etc came along, so it's nice to be on an active forum again Like you say, lots of useful info and guidance on here.

Yep, I've got the RossTech kit for VCDS, I looked at getting VIDA a couple of years back, but it all seemed a bit complicated in comparison, so never got it sorted. Cheapest quote I've had to plug in the XC60 is £135 so it's probably a good investment.

In the absence of an EML, I'm going to do the gearbox oil changes and just keep driving it. If there's an issue with EGR etc it'll soon rear its head properly and then I'll see if that warranty I paid for was worth it

If you're willing to travel, there's some very good independent Volvo Specialists in Manchester. Trevor Burgess in Hyde and Hallmark Volvo in Stockport (both are open Monday-Friday only, no Saturday's).

I get that may be a distance getting there, but you're not a million miles away either. They charge for diagnostics, but I think its much cheaper than £135... I think its about £70 if I recall correctly (check with them to be sure before travelling). Both garages know their stuff, but they're usually busy... expect a week wait minimum.

If you plan on keeping the Volvo for a while, VIDA will easily pay for itself... definitely a good investment. There's plenty of people on here who can guide you through what to press etc etc.

[Kev0607]

Originally Posted by Stu B

Hi Simeon, I came from a background of VW and older BMWs, I still own a few of those too, and found similar but always tend to do my own maintenance time permitting regardless. I would say you’ll find some great knowledge on this forum though and hopefully recommendations for specialists when you need them.

I’ve done a few DIY transmission fluid changes on my Volvos and have recently bought a V60 which will be getting the same treatment on the driveway in addition to the various AWD fluid changes that never get done at main dealers. If you can get your hands on a DICE unit and the VIDA software it makes maintaining a Volvo so much easier, it’s like VCDS for VAG if you’re familiar with that?

I’ll add a link to my previous V70 thread which pics and the process for the gearbox fluid change which might help. EGR wise I’ve never had issues but VIDA would be my route to diagnose if I did suspect a problem.

Have a look at post #5 onwards here. Make sure you can undo the fill plug, probably a T55 torx, before you drain anything

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=302878

All the best, Stu

Off topic, but do you have any experience of the auto DSG transmission? I've heard lots of horror stories about them. Are they bad as people say, or is it lack of transmission fluid/filter changes that leads to costly repairs?

[Stu B]

Originally Posted by Kev0607

Off topic, but do you have any experience of the auto DSG transmission? I've heard lots of horror stories about them. Are they bad as people say, or is it lack of transmission fluid/filter changes that leads to costly repairs?

I’ve driven a few but never owned one so can’t comment really, though I would assume like most things if they are maintained correctly they last. I’m sticking with torque converters for now