How clean are new diesel cars?

Lexman8 · Feb 25th, 2019, 09:54

Quite clean actually: https://www.hl.co.uk/news/2019/2/25/...NRM&Override=1

Haldex · Feb 25th, 2019, 10:15

Yes, I've read this a couple of days ago somewhere..

Here's a full test (ADAC, in German): https://www.adac.de/rund-ums-fahrzeu...-euro-6d-temp/

Interestingly, one of the cars tested was XC60 D5 - also tested well below the 80mg/km Euro 6d norm:

jonnyu · Feb 25th, 2019, 13:10

BMW 520D with 1?
Am I missing here something?

Zebster · Feb 25th, 2019, 13:29

That Volvo may under the Euro 6d requirement, but relatively bad compared to others shown.

jonnyu · Feb 25th, 2019, 13:48

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Originally Posted by Zebster

That Volvo may under the Euro 6d requirement, but relatively bad compared to others shown.

This is why I find this so weird. All the german and french cars have almost Nox 0 emissions and then the 2 outsiders have high values.

It just seems odd coming from the main brands that fooled us for so many years on the emissions department...

That D5 is with or without AdBlue?

Haldex · Feb 25th, 2019, 15:22

Don't forget that this is a WLTP test- so vehicle class (size, weight- it's defined as "PMR" or power-to-mass ratio..) plays as well- and XC60 is the only 2-ton SUV in the list.. Euro 6d will be made compulsory January 1 2021- so when it becomes compulsory (for new cars..) my XC60 will be 3 yrs old- and it will still be 30% below the prescribed limit. The glass is actually full guys

Now the BMW 520d.. I'm really puzzled with this one.. "Zee Germans" found a way to cheat around the WLTP too?

Haldex · Feb 25th, 2019, 15:25

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Originally Posted by jonnyu

That D5 is with or without AdBlue?

Doesn't matter.. NOx levels are the same..

Quacker · Feb 25th, 2019, 18:14

All those emission figures, including the Volvo's, are near to two fifths of bugger all.

MaDProFF · Feb 25th, 2019, 18:31

Are all these results from test conditions etc. so nothing like in the real world under load etc?

Quacker · Feb 25th, 2019, 18:50

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Originally Posted by MaDProFF

Are all these results from test conditions etc. so nothing like in the real world under load etc?

As I understand it they are the results of official tests checking manufacturer's figures.

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