which T5 is best

[jamesy12345]

Originally Posted by strbryan

Don is referring to the P2/P2.5 (2003 onwards)and not the classic V70

Oops, my bad if so, I was talking about the 'classics'. I know next to nothing about more modern Volvos, I'm still in the 1990's here. The OP set us a pretty wide range to answer, I wonder if he has decided which one to go for yet

[daniel mossey]

Hi thanks for the info, the reason i avsked is because My bortger has a V70 r and it always seende notoriously slow for what it was and for standard like I had a v70 t5 cd which ran a lot better than his in al round performance. Maybe something was wrong somewhere.

[jamesy12345]

Originally Posted by daniel mossey

Hi thanks for the info, the reason i avsked is because My bortger has a V70 r and it always seende notoriously slow for what it was and for standard like I had a v70 t5 cd which ran a lot better than his in al round performance. Maybe something was wrong somewhere.

Well my remapped S70 CD auto 'feels' quicker than my 1999 V70R AWD, but that might be due to the difference between FWD and 4x4. The V70 was a couple of hundred kilograms heavier than the S70 though...

[PNuT]

http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/press/pd...ssDocV7-39.pdf

looks like a difference of 45kg for like for like models between v & s

[jamesy12345]

Originally Posted by PNuT

http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/press/pd...ssDocV7-39.pdf

looks like a difference of 45kg for like for like models between v & s

I got my info from the Parkers website.....1997 S70 CD auto at 1376 kg and a 1999 V70R AWD (phase 2) at 1665 kg

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/review...on-1996/12841/

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/review...te-1996/13717/

I would be surprised if the difference in weight really was 290 kg, but without a doubt my S70 is a little less hefty than my V70 was.

[PNuT]

Originally Posted by jamesy12345

I got my info from the Parkers website.....1997 S70 CD auto at 1376 kg and a 1999 V70R AWD (phase 2) at 1665 kg

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/review...on-1996/12841/

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/review...te-1996/13717/

I would be surprised if the difference in weight really was 290 kg, but without a doubt my S70 is a little less hefty than my V70 was.

I expect the AWD system would be the best part of half that! If not more!!

the electric seat motors are really heavy as well, I would imagine your R had one both sides!

When I had my T5 I deliberately bought one that was a base model with no electric seats sunroof etc!!

[jamesy12345]

Originally Posted by PNuT

I expect the AWD system would be the best part of half that! If not more!!

the electric seat motors are really heavy as well, I would imagine your R had one both sides!

When I had my T5 I deliberately bought one that was a base model with no electric seats sunroof etc!!

Yes mate my thinking exactly:

Two electric seat motors
Angle gear
Propshaft
Rear diff
Rear axles/driveshafts

I don't have to drag them about now mind you at wide open throttle the torque steer on the S70 can be entertaining, the AWD drive was pretty stable even under hard acceleration. Probably why I thought it was slower.......

[DionBullock]

IIRC the 99' onwards T5's came with VVT??

[jamesy12345]

Originally Posted by DionBullock

IIRC the 99' onwards T5's came with VVT??

Not sure about the T5's but my '99 phase 2 V70R had VVC on the exhaust cam only. So I heard anyway never actually saw it. Certainly my 98 model year S70 doesn't have this so even more weight saved lol

[Clan]

Originally Posted by DionBullock

IIRC the 99' onwards T5's came with VVT??

i believe the dual VVT units came from around 2003 ? The exhaust VVT is only for emission purposes not power .