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Old Apr 21st, 2006, 22:39   #11
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The petrol prices have to go up just as ive got a car with a bigger engine!

out of interest how much does it cost to get one of these lpg conversions cost?

The tax for petrol is daft, what is the point in panic buying, doesnt it just make the prices go higher?
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Old Apr 22nd, 2006, 00:30   #12
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Interesting thread

We seem to forget the majority of the pump price actually go to our beloved and truthful government in the form of duty approx 75%. We pay more for our fuel than most of the countries in the developed world. If you don't believe me do a search there's vast amounts out there even in garages.

We are being robbed blind by the government in taxation; fuel duty + VAT, road tax and insurance premium tax. Most retail parks and supermarkets are out of town, so we have to drive. We drive cars because it's cheaper, easier and more convenient than to use all public transport especially if you have kids (where's the logic in that?). Alot of people have to commute vast distances to work out of necessity, quite often in opposite directions of our partners (two car household). Driving is not a luxury, alot of the time it's a necessity (esp if you've got buggered legs like me).

I'm not even going to start on the revenue aquired by the dreaded speed camera. I don't advocate reckless/dangerous driving in anyway shape or form but really this every speeder is a menace to society and should be treated like a drink driver, hardly!!! Over reaction or what.

Its a fact if you drive you speed, we are all law breakers. If your paying so much attention to your speed your paying less attention to the road. Just to clarify I have a clean licence, always have also I've had only 1 accident in 15 years of driving. During a jouney I will always break the speed limit at some point.

Do you enter every new limit at the right speed? Do you allow your speed to creep up going downhill? Do you accelerate after the new limit sign or ease your foot down when you see it? Do you exactly how fast your travelling without looking at your speedo in all gears?

Personally if I could afford a LPG conversion I would have it done in a heartbeat but because I can't afford a car less than 5 years I can't get a discount for an LPG conversion. Unfortunately I don't do enough mileage to warrant the cost of converting. So I just vent every now and then and keep putting the fuel in my car.

But on a more balanced note, we just love them and the freedom that they give us and were prepared to pay through the nose to have it. AND THEY KNOW IT!!!!! I got there...

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Old Apr 22nd, 2006, 09:48   #13
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Unfortunately I don't do enough mileage to warrant the cost of converting. So I just vent every now and then and keep putting the fuel in my car.
same with me. It baffles me really, my commute to work is 2 miles each way, but i still manage to rack up 1000 miles in 2 months just visiting mates etc

i'll have to start tightening my belt even more.
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Old Apr 22nd, 2006, 10:13   #14
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The road user is a cash cow to be milked by our glorious leaders every time they screw up (again). They talk a good game about using public transport but it is just talk - we won't give up our cars until the alternative is in place and it never will be.

£43 billion off the road user per year which is about 10% of government revenue. We are being fleeced..............
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Old Apr 22nd, 2006, 11:10   #15
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Well said that man!!!!!!!!

Of course another problem we have is, forecourts are very quick to put the prices up when the oil per barrel is high, but very slow to reduce it again if the price drops... We wonder why all oil companies are producing record profits!!!

There been some talk of panic buying, I haven't seen any evidence of it locally but I do know regarding Iran if we do invade (bush already talking openly about it) then we are going to have the Mother F****r of wars. Then I suggest its time to dig our own graves. Its gone from politics to religeon and thats bad news. The most irresponsible thing Bush and Blair have done is mention their faith and god etc when talking about the middle east/iraq.

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Old Apr 22nd, 2006, 13:49   #16
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My wife and I had to go into London 3 times last month and had to travel up in during rush hour. We drove to Gatwick and had to get the train to Victoria and then the tube to Tooting. The total return cost for the rail and tube was £50 for the two of us!
Funnily enough we only did that the first time and drove the 93 miles there and back the following two times. My wifes Focus does about 35-40mpg has comfy seats, air conditioning and a stereo and nil chance of a loony getting in and sitting next to me! The trip took two thirds the time of the train journey and the car parking cost us £5 each time so theres no way those two trips came to £100. And the government wonder why people drive their cars.

Here here, Thats a fantastic point well put. The price of public transport is stupid. I live in a rural location and only have the chance of catching 3 buses a day excluding Sunday. If my wife, 3 kids and I catch the bus 10 miles in to town the return journey costs a whopping £13.20 I can do the same journey in my S70 for about £4 and I can stay out after 5 o,clock to boot. To be honest I don't know the price per litre in town but whatever it is if I want some type of life, living ruraly I definately have to pay it.

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Old Apr 22nd, 2006, 20:51   #17
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The petrol prices have to go up just as ive got a car with a bigger engine!

out of interest how much does it cost to get one of these lpg conversions cost?

The tax for petrol is daft, what is the point in panic buying, doesnt it just make the prices go higher?
To give you an idea a 240 pre cat would be £750 fitted
a 850 T5R would be £1550 fitted.
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Old Apr 22nd, 2006, 22:00   #18
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how much would it be for a 440 2.0?
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Old Apr 22nd, 2006, 22:46   #19
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I'm now spending over £250 a month in fuel and its starting to sting quite a bit. I have to drive about 40 miles a day to and from work and public transport isn't even available. Whats more, I have to supply a car for work use so even if public transport was available, I couldn't use it.

what hurts even more is that fuel duty is set to go up in september so dont bet fuel prices will go down after the summer!
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what hurts even more is that fuel duty is set to go up in september so dont bet fuel prices will go down after the summer!
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