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Oct 7th, 2021, 08:21 | #21 |
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I would disagree about it's SOLE purpose. It's certainly one of the benefits of ABS, panic/emergency braking where ABS usually comes into play will more often than not happen in a straight line.
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Oct 7th, 2021, 08:38 | #22 | |
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It isn't infallible though, an ex girlfriend many moons ago thought she could drive how she liked in cy conditions because she had ABS - result, one 4-wheel skid and a neat pirouette up the embankment! Later (in warm, dry weather) same girlfriend shoved her mascara brush up her left nostril while applying mascara at 90mph on a bumpy road! Draw your own conclusions about her driving but if a car doesn't have good tyres and suspension, even ABS won't prevent a skid in slippery conditions - it's a driver aid, no more, no less. In other words, drive like a numpty, involuntarily explore the scenery!
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Oct 7th, 2021, 10:50 | #23 | |
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braking and steering will be an automatic reaction anyway ...
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Oct 7th, 2021, 11:03 | #24 | |
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##### As you say if there is to friction where the tyres meet whatever surface they are in contact with then nothing - not even a clever computer can do much about undesirable momentum... ...I've noticed (mainly on Top Gear) that cars now flash lights and indicators to draw attention to numpty activity behind the steering wheel / loss of stability / traction. I guess these systems are going to have to get more and more advanced when cars really start to drive themselves. I assume they are going to have cameras that can sense speed in all driving conditions as well as sensors that detect changes in speed and acceleration of parts of the vehicle as well as the vehicle as a whole. GPS certainly isn't going to help - particularly at lower vehicle speeds. If you were actually allowed to be an automotive engineer (rather than a yes man on a commitee) I think now would be a very interesting period of automotive development. The introduction of newer thinking from some electric vehicler producers is essentially anarchy in the staid and lazy conventional automotive industry... [Note I'm avoiding the use of the term "legacy car makers" as for some reason it reminds me of crappy computer software - can't imagine why]
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Oct 7th, 2021, 11:07 | #25 | |
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...I have no idea what it would be like to lock up wheels on a more modern car - especially something with fly by wire controls...
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As i said when i rephrased the comment above, ABS is designed to help maiantain control which not only covers steering but also traction for braking and stability of the vehicle as well. Ideally you shouldn't be braking while steering but in an emergency situation those rules aren't always possible to apply.
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