Volvo C30 2.0D "Shark Performance" nightmare!

[yalrafai]

Originally Posted by GazzR

Ok i will drive all that way to buy a remap just to prove you wrong lmao, there is just no getting through to some people, anyhow im glad your happy with your "tuning" box

What if I paid for your remap? Then you surely would have no excuses to get it done?

[yalrafai]

I mean, I'm already in enough debt as it stands might aswell add another £300 or so to it

[GazzR]

Are you for real lmao, thanks for the offer though

[yalrafai]

Originally Posted by GazzR

Are you for real lmao, thanks for the offer though

Yes I am for real, as long as you honestly report back the condition of your car post-remap

[GazzR]

Originally Posted by yalrafai

Yes I am for real, as long as you honestly report back the condition of your car post-remap

I have been wanting to remap my car for a while and still intend too, as much as i would like to take you up on that offer i wouldn't remap mine until i put a new clutch and flywheel in, mine has a high biting point and although not slipping a remap would more than likely make it slip, i say this from personal experience having had my previous car remapped. Unfortunately i can't afford this right now but im sure there will be someone else willing to do this though. There's plenty of people out there with a remap from shark and quite happy, i dare say like yourself there are people maybe not so happy but to come on this forum and accuse Shark of causing the issue without any evidence is out of order and not the way you should have dealt with the issue, there has been more than just me say this. Again i would happily have my car remapped by Shark. I certainly wouldn't let this thread put me off.

[Guru]

Originally Posted by GazzR

i wouldn't remap mine until i put a new clutch and flywheel in, mine has a high biting point and although not slipping a remap would more than likely make it slip

I also thought that my clutch was worn out due to high biting point, it turned out that the hydraulic brake fluid had deteriorated, wet boiling point was at 134C while it should have been above 155 ! worth looking in to before shelling out for a clutch replacement, any MOT station can determine brake fluid quality .. however, if the DMF is rattling and needs replacement, then of course change the clutch and the slave cylinder along with it, regardless ..

... having said that, I have had a bluespark performance tuning box for over 4 years now /13000 miles annually/, and I never had any issues with it .. just sayin'

[GazzR]

Originally Posted by Guru

I also thought that my clutch was worn out due to high biting point, it turned out that the hydraulic brake fluid had deteriorated, wet boiling point was at 134C while it should have been above 155 ! worth looking in to before shelling out for a clutch replacement, any MOT station can determine brake fluid quality .. however, if the DMF is rattling and needs replacement, then of course change the clutch and the slave cylinder along with it, regardless ..

... having said that, I have had a bluespark performance tuning box for over 4 years now /13000 miles annually/, and I never had any issues with it .. just sayin'

Id sooner put a clutch and flywheel in as my car is now on 88000 miles and there is a slight chatter from the flywheel along with a high biting point, a remap would certainly kill a worn clutch off in no time as i had this exact thing happen to my audi a4 1.9tdi. This is the reason i have not remapped my s40 yet as id rather get a new clutch and flywheel in beforehand to cope with the extra power. Im currently doing my lgv licence so cant afford this and as its not urgent i will do it at a later date, otherwise id certainly take a free remap and review it for the OP.

[dme123]

Originally Posted by yalrafai

Thanks for the feedback. If it's chucking in more fuel then why am I getting a higher MPG reading?

As someone else said (although perhaps a little rudely) the ECU, which calculates consumption for your OBC, no longer has a true view of what is happening in terms of the amount of fuel injected, as that box is ****ing about with the signals it's receiving. The box is causing more fuel to be injected than the ECU requests, that is quite literally all it does.

Funnily enough burned out pistons is one thing that won't happen - the engine will be running richer than the ECU intends so combustion temperatures won't be as high. You'll also be generating less NOX, all else being equal. It absolutely WILL be creating more soon than it should be, your car has a dry DPF so you will not see it but you'll know about it when the DPF past the point of being able to regenerate tens of thousands of miles earlier than it should be. You can mitigate against a little this by using Shell V-Power diesel, which is partially made of GTL based fuel and creates less soot. You also stand a chance of overspeeding the turbine in your turbocharger due to the poor control the ECU now has, which will be even more of a risk as your oil will be dirtier than it should be due to the overfuelling.

I really don't want to jump on the bandwagon of giving the OP a kicking, but you really need to think very carefully about leaving that tuning box on your car. By the time you realise you have a problem you could be looking down the barrel of a couple of grand bill.

Professionally carried out remaps are pushing your luck already in terms of accelerating wear and risking pushing components past their tolerances, but they are (or should be) more sophisticated than just shovelling more fuel into the engine. The blind man with a sledgehammer approach of a tuning box is really asking for it.

[iantowil]

Originally Posted by FordsAreBetter

I've been watching this post for a while now and feel like I have gained a general overview of the situation and I have to say I can't seem to see why the likes of "cheshireD5" particularly, has nothing helpful to say and then complains about wasting his time on this thread, which is true because the only input he brings his hypocritical. For example, you said a few comments back "I just disagree with everything you say and do in this waste of space thread" and then a couple of posts later say "Your insistence on being correct and dismissal of alternative views is exactly why you're 2 grand down" which cracks me up because your accusing someone of always being correct and not being open to alternatives but at the same stating that you are actively disagreeing with everything he says.

Regarding the car, if its running better now with the tuning box than the shark map then why shouldn't the OP be free to tell people without being criticised for being naive or stupid by shark tuning fanboys. He said himself the car ran dirty and over fuelled with the shark map which created lots of smoke and soot from the exhaust, and now it runs great, or as many people are saying, it runs great for now and he is to expect an overwhelming amount of problems from the supposedly 'less superior' tuning box in the future. Im not too sure wether I would have lots of lovely things to say about a company that has created issues with the car and no sign of a refund or even an apology, never mind the extensive repair bills. Prior to installing the tuning box it would be hard to determine wether it was the shark map at fault but if everything is working perfectly now, then it is fair to say that is the likely cause, but most people insist this can't be the case and are holding out that the car develops problems to try and prove that shark are unable to do anything wrong, or make mistakes, mainly because they themselves have been proved that there are better alternatives than shark.

What a great post. Absolutely! :-)

[FordsAreBetter]

Originally Posted by iantowil

What a great post. Absolutely! :-)

Thanks 👍🏻