National Rally 2006 - Judging / Raffle - Page 3

Pedro Fandango · Jun 22nd, 2006, 01:21

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Originally Posted by Simon Linton

all owners were discouraged from being around when their cars were marked, both to spare their feelings and to avoid any taint of influence.

i can understand that, but being in the non-standard class i would of liked a chance to show/explain some of the modifications/changes which aren't so obvious.

i do think the idea of having a section close by for Volvo owners who don't want to be judged yet have there cars on display, i know the day visitors parking was nice & close this year but was still seperated enough that i didn't go & have a look around even tho i did spot a few lovely looking Volvo's from the distance

Chris_C · Jun 22nd, 2006, 01:44

Agree'd there Pedro, I didn't print out my normal sheet that explained what I'd done to my car, but at least one of the guys in the 300 class did, and from what I could see by the judges, it was completely ignored. Still, I saw a lot of passers by reading it.

MissDMeanor · Jun 22nd, 2006, 01:59

Is it posted anywhere who won what? I'd like to see the names and cars etc that won please

My apologies for the guffaws when the 'Longest-Toe' award was announced......as a chiropodist's daughter not having heard this award before, I began visualizing all sorts of things (which included clown sized shoes

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Simon Linton · Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:33

Miss Demeanor's comments about her modifications are valid if the mods were part of the marking process; but the only criteria were cosmetic, not mechanical. (Best KEPT Volvo you see, not best DRIVING Volvo).

Obviously in the "standard" classes originality as well as appearance mattered, but in the non-standard classes a jet engine would have been fine so long as it was shiny!

IC · Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:46

Now a Volvo with a jet engine that would be something else

Stand clear please

Pedro Fandango · Jun 22nd, 2006, 12:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon Linton

Miss Demeanor's comments about her modifications are valid if the mods were part of the marking process; but the only criteria were cosmetic, not mechanical. (Best KEPT Volvo you see, not best DRIVING Volvo).

so a mint standard car with just an aftermarket spoiler for instance could enter the modified class & quite easily win over a car that has had many hours of work put into it making it differnet

not sure how you'd go about it but i think the degree of mods should count towards some of the score

MissDMeanor · Jun 22nd, 2006, 12:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon Linton

Miss Demeanor's comments about her modifications are valid if the mods were part of the marking process; but the only criteria were cosmetic, not mechanical. (Best KEPT Volvo you see, not best DRIVING Volvo).

Obviously in the "standard" classes originality as well as appearance mattered, but in the non-standard classes a jet engine would have been fine so long as it was shiny!

What comments?

Chris_C · Jun 22nd, 2006, 14:19

Thanks for that Simon, thats cleared up something that I've always been a bit confused by!

So the BKV really is just done on shineyness, (ok, and getting rid of dents etc, and I guess paint finish) and not on the work that someone puts into there car in other departments, like performance and handling, or sorting out mechancical "features" that have been there from factory?

(I'm trying to write this in a way that doesn't sound derogatory, as I don't mean that, but think I've failed completely!) I guess a competition by any other rules would be down to a lot more jodge interpretation, with favoured areas (e.g. power vs an overhauled well running stock engine), where as a shiney compition will be judged by almost all people the same.

MissDMeanor · Jun 22nd, 2006, 14:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedro Fandango

so a mint standard car with just an aftermarket spoiler for instance could enter the modified class & quite easily win over a car that has had many hours of work put into it making it differnet

not sure how you'd go about it but i think the degree of mods should count towards some of the score

Maybe there could be a seperate award for the 'best/most modified' which looks at the amount of mods and uniqueness, or something like that? And a 'best restoration' along the same lines?

Fulcanelli · Jun 22nd, 2006, 16:49

I think the "Pre-MOT" category should be done away with. I mean, how much effort does it take to keep a brand new car looking brand new?

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MissDMeanor Corruption rules Last Online: Dec 23rd, 2011 08:05 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Select from list View Photos By: MissDMeanor	Awards Is it posted anywhere who won what? I'd like to see the names and cars etc that won please My apologies for the guffaws when the 'Longest-Toe' award was announced......as a chiropodist's daughter not having heard this award before, I began visualizing all sorts of things (which included clown sized shoes ) __________________ The Mouthy Blonde is back on the road....& still dangerous Corruption rules.

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Simon Linton 850/70 Register Keeper Last Online: Apr 24th, 2008 19:02 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Leicester	Owner explanations Miss Demeanor's comments about her modifications are valid if the mods were part of the marking process; but the only criteria were cosmetic, not mechanical. (Best KEPT Volvo you see, not best DRIVING Volvo). Obviously in the "standard" classes originality as well as appearance mattered, but in the non-standard classes a jet engine would have been fine so long as it was shiny!

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IC S60R/V70R Last Online: Apr 27th, 2024 11:54 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Brumbeldore View Photos By: IC	Jet Engine Now a Volvo with a jet engine that would be something else Stand clear please __________________ 2003 S60R 2003 V70R VOC Speed Challenge Champion 2007/08/Joint Winner 2009 Motor Sport Challenge Winner 2008/Joint Winner 2009

Jun 22nd, 2006, 01:44	#22
Chris_C Gopher Last Online: Oct 12th, 2023 15:31 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Southampton or Isle of Wight View Photos By: Chris_C	Agree'd there Pedro, I didn't print out my normal sheet that explained what I'd done to my car, but at least one of the guys in the 300 class did, and from what I could see by the judges, it was completely ignored. Still, I saw a lot of passers by reading it.

Jun 22nd, 2006, 14:19	#28
Chris_C Gopher Last Online: Oct 12th, 2023 15:31 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Southampton or Isle of Wight View Photos By: Chris_C	Thanks for that Simon, thats cleared up something that I've always been a bit confused by! So the BKV really is just done on shineyness, (ok, and getting rid of dents etc, and I guess paint finish) and not on the work that someone puts into there car in other departments, like performance and handling, or sorting out mechancical "features" that have been there from factory? (I'm trying to write this in a way that doesn't sound derogatory, as I don't mean that, but think I've failed completely!) I guess a competition by any other rules would be down to a lot more jodge interpretation, with favoured areas (e.g. power vs an overhauled well running stock engine), where as a shiney compition will be judged by almost all people the same.

Jun 22nd, 2006, 16:49	#30
Fulcanelli Junior Member Last Online: Oct 29th, 2016 20:40 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Glasgow	I think the "Pre-MOT" category should be done away with. I mean, how much effort does it take to keep a brand new car looking brand new?

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