G/box: 164 4 speed/OD: - Gearbox Conversion

AerospaceTeknology · Jan 6th, 2009, 12:32

I own several 164's and one 144. One of my 164's needs a rear oil seal replacement and since it's an auto requiring transmission attention, I've decided to replace it with a manual M400 gearbox, since I have all required parts. However, the M410 would facilitate better milage (O/D) but they are now very hard to find.

I've found Volvo 240 owners converting W58 5-speed gearboxes from toyotas and had heard about a Getrag V160 6-speed being used in a 164 but I don't know the info to verify this case. The sixth gear of the V160 is close to the M410 O/D ratio and the idea of 6-speed is appealing, so if you, or any one else you know has used a viable 5/6 speed gear box compatible with a 164E ? Please reply this thread.

If not, the M400 will simply have to do !

Cheers

Mike Hollebone · Aug 4th, 2009, 14:15

hi i have two M410 0verdrive gearboxes for sale. But i do not have the crossmember or the propshaft to go with it which you will need. if you are interested in a gearbox Contact me mikeh7@tiscali.co.uk Mike.

john h · Aug 4th, 2009, 14:40

Hi,

I have the M410 crossmember you need. It is a custom-made item, not OE, adapted from an M400 item, but it's strong and it fits.

Let me know if you want photos so you can have a copy made, or if you want to buy mine and have it shipped.

Getting the propshaft shortened and rebalanced should be easy if you find a specialist.

Are you keeping the rear axle from the auto? If so remember to factor that into ratio calculations. In my experience, manual 164s had a shorter rear axle.

Regards

John

chacon64 · Aug 26th, 2009, 00:12

Hello: Do you have a power steering for sale from one of your 164?
My Dad is 83 years old and needs a power steering.

Thank you!.

Rodrigo.

Derek UK · Aug 26th, 2009, 11:16

Dellow should be able to sort out out a conversion bellhousing and other conversion parts. Box of your choice. Supra is well liked, T5 good and will take all the power you can make with the 164.

Supra box
Basic Dimensions
Gearbox weight: 35kg
Input shaft: 21 splines by 29mm
Gearbox length: 22"
Tailshaft splines: 21
Oil capacity: 2.5L

Toyota Supra Aluminum 5-speed Transmission Gear Ratios (by series)

Gear W55 W57 W58 W59 Rover *
1st 3.57 3.28 3.28 3.95 3.32
2nd 2.06 1.89 1.89 2.14 2.09
3rd 1.38 1.27 1.27 1.27 1.40
4th 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00
5th 0.85 0.86 0.78 0.85 0.83
* Rover gear ratios provided for comparison

Contact Dellow at 37 Daisy Street, Revesby, Sydney, NSW 2212 Australia
Phone: (02) 774-4419 Fax: (02) 774-4783

Good luck.

Jan 6th, 2009, 12:32	#1
AerospaceTeknology New Member Last Online: Jan 6th, 2009 12:35 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Brisbane	Gearbox Conversion I own several 164's and one 144. One of my 164's needs a rear oil seal replacement and since it's an auto requiring transmission attention, I've decided to replace it with a manual M400 gearbox, since I have all required parts. However, the M410 would facilitate better milage (O/D) but they are now very hard to find. I've found Volvo 240 owners converting W58 5-speed gearboxes from toyotas and had heard about a Getrag V160 6-speed being used in a 164 but I don't know the info to verify this case. The sixth gear of the V160 is close to the M410 O/D ratio and the idea of 6-speed is appealing, so if you, or any one else you know has used a viable 5/6 speed gear box compatible with a 164E ? Please reply this thread. If not, the M400 will simply have to do ! Cheers

Aug 4th, 2009, 14:40	#3
john h VOC Member Last Online: Apr 28th, 2024 08:16 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Huddersfield View Photos By: john h	Hi, I have the M410 crossmember you need. It is a custom-made item, not OE, adapted from an M400 item, but it's strong and it fits. Let me know if you want photos so you can have a copy made, or if you want to buy mine and have it shipped. Getting the propshaft shortened and rebalanced should be easy if you find a specialist. Are you keeping the rear axle from the auto? If so remember to factor that into ratio calculations. In my experience, manual 164s had a shorter rear axle. Regards John __________________ XX

Aug 26th, 2009, 00:12	#4
chacon64 New Member Last Online: Feb 5th, 2011 00:49 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: coyhaique	164 power steering Hello: Do you have a power steering for sale from one of your 164? My Dad is 83 years old and needs a power steering. Thank you!. Rodrigo.

Aug 4th, 2009, 14:15	#2
Mike Hollebone New Member Last Online: Feb 11th, 2011 13:08 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Salcombe	hi i have two M410 0verdrive gearboxes for sale. But i do not have the crossmember or the propshaft to go with it which you will need. if you are interested in a gearbox Contact me mikeh7@tiscali.co.uk Mike.

Aug 26th, 2009, 11:16	#5
Derek UK VOC Member Last Online: Yesterday 16:48 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chatham	Dellow should be able to sort out out a conversion bellhousing and other conversion parts. Box of your choice. Supra is well liked, T5 good and will take all the power you can make with the 164. Supra box Basic Dimensions Gearbox weight: 35kg Input shaft: 21 splines by 29mm Gearbox length: 22" Tailshaft splines: 21 Oil capacity: 2.5L Toyota Supra Aluminum 5-speed Transmission Gear Ratios (by series) Gear W55 W57 W58 W59 Rover * 1st 3.57 3.28 3.28 3.95 3.32 2nd 2.06 1.89 1.89 2.14 2.09 3rd 1.38 1.27 1.27 1.27 1.40 4th 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 5th 0.85 0.86 0.78 0.85 0.83 * Rover gear ratios provided for comparison Contact Dellow at 37 Daisy Street, Revesby, Sydney, NSW 2212 Australia Phone: (02) 774-4419 Fax: (02) 774-4783 Good luck.

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