Speed limiter

[37 RUBY]

Originally Posted by ThomasG

Now, am I supposed to give direct control over what speed my car can achieve to such?
Not if there's anything I can do about it.

You (and others participating in this thread) speak as if you are one of Volvo's target audience yet for yourself by virtue of the vehicle in your signature you will remain unaffected by this recent announcement...and that's not a criticism, I like old, look at my profile name and picture.
I am just noting that you appear to run a 2003 Volvo that can go as quick as your brain tells your right foot to press downwards.

Maybe, just maybe it will be a good thing that cars of the future, the likes of which you and I will be unlikely to buy, are available with foolproof technology for those with an inherent inability to drive, controlling their speed past a school crossing at 3pm on a Friday, stopping them from undertaking or tailgating or trying to move into my lane when I'm alongside them....and all this time you and I will continue driving as we do, sensibly without need of interference from others.

...and although you digress with regards the Higways Agency controlling motorways, I agree that the nonsensical manner in the way it is controlled needs a coat of looking at.
I've seen the M1 covered with thick snow both directions with a 40mph restriction southbound and national speed Northbound...as if the Northbound snow had more grip!!!

Going back to the original theme regarding Volvo's announcement, if all the torque and acceleration is still available but the speed only restricts at the defined value and you are a target customer wanting the latest Volvo, where is the issue if you generally obey road speed restrictions?

[ThomasG]

Well.. If you put it like that..

Not much against it..

Maybe apart from the fact that one day I will be forced to change my car.
And I'd like to be able to choose a car that I, not someone else, have control over

[biggbn]

Originally Posted by id5

We only have the words that we write with to communicate in this forum. If you meant top trumps then just say that. Saying something else just makes it awkward.

You asked for a logical reason, I gave you one, to reduced my time wasted driving from A to B.

So you are happy to break the law? I don't see that as a logical reason. You are happy to participate in an action that may lose you your licence and stop your future participation in an action you love? Doesn't sound very logical to me...

And am happy with the words I use brother man, although it is your right not to be.

[green van man]

It is a certainty that us bickering on a forum about volvos speed limier will not stop them fitting it.
The answer is in our hands.

Don't buy cars fitted with them.

Paul.

[ThomasG]

Originally Posted by green van man

It is a certainty that us bickering on a forum about volvos speed limier will not stop them fitting it.
The answer is in our hands.

Don't buy cars fitted with them.

Paul.

Whilst I agree with you, the answer "if we won't buy them, someone else will, that's progress" is just about to be given, by someone.. Not me of course..

Ehh.. One must just endure the kind that, unable to operate an axe safely, wows to ban axes from general (read everyone's) use.. Destroying lives in the name of own incompetence.

Btw. Did you know that quite a percentage of reoffenders, serving long jail terms, are rules-abiding kind of people?

Unable to steer own lives, they'll break the law once but properly, in order to establish someone else to tell them what, when and how to do.

[37 RUBY]

Originally Posted by green van man

It is a certainty that us bickering on a forum about volvos speed limier will not stop them fitting it.
The answer is in our hands.

Don't buy cars fitted with them.

Paul.

Exactly....why not keep the old metal running instead of trying to keep up with the neighbours.

Perhaps people are yearning for the times car manufacturers such as Volvo did listen to the feet on the ground. Those days are long gone. It is instead tech, tech and more tech but very little commonsense. Face it - we are just bums on seats with thousands more to take our place if we defect.

Shame about the bickering though...

[id5]

Originally Posted by biggbn

So you are happy to break the law? I don't see that as a logical reason.
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And am happy with the words I use brother man, although it is your right not to be.

Originally Posted by biggbn

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If anyone can give me a good, logical reason why the speed of a car should be left up to its operator and the car should have the temptation of doubling the speed limit i retain an open mind...its just I can't think of any

I am responding to and continued to respond to your original question of “If anyone can give me a good, logical reason why the speed of a car should be left up to its operator” which does not say anything about the breaking the law, you added that later. Left up to its operator means exactly that, the operator decides what is the safe limit. That may be 155mph down a motorway or 10mph past a school with children going in or out. You may have wanted to mean illegally in your original question, but you did not write that.

Is there a logical reason to break the law and speed, yes, to aid or protect life. One example would be acute anaphylactic shock and no ambulance or paramedic available within 5 minutes, which is highly likely if you do not live in a city. What would you rather do, drive the person to the nearest pharmacy or doctor breaking all manner of road laws or watch them die because you cannot get there in time to save their life because of a speed limiter.

[biggbn]

Edit. Pointless me responding.

[ThomasG]

Originally Posted by biggbn

Edit. Pointless me responding.

Why?

Why is it pointless?

[Whippy]

Directive 2016/83/EU of the European Parliament and of the Council of 25 October 2016 on new vehicles, amending Council Directive 14/13/EEC and Directive 2002/44/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council and repealing Council Directive98/577/EEC and Directive 09/7/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council Text with EEA relevance.

From 2025 all new motor vehicles produced for the use of private citizens within the EU, its subscribing territories and partners will, as from April 1st of this date be subject to the following standards.

All new vehicles will be powered by consumer replaceable carbon zinc power cells.

All new vehicles will be manufactured using NO LESS than 85% open cell foam material.

All new vehicles will be capable of attaining speeds (subject to local restrictions) NO MORE than 42kph.

All new vehicles manufactured or imported into [the zone] will be available in either beige or taupe.