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Hybrid Turbos by Dan Jones. Article No 5 in a Series by Experts in the Industry

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Old Oct 9th, 2005, 22:46   #61
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Default RE: TT turbo v Mitsubishi.

I think you'll find he was implying that it is a Standard volvo turbo and not a Hybrid. Maybe he could have worded it alittle better.


I will try to contact Dan at TT tomorrow and see if he can clear up some of the points made in the posts.

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Old Oct 9th, 2005, 22:48   #62
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>I think you'll find he was implying that it is a Standard
>volvo turbo and not a Hybrid. Maybe he could have worded it
>alittle better.
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>I will try to contact Dan at TT tomorrow and see if he can
>clear up some of the points made in the posts.
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Volvo only use standard turbos, not hybrids. So there is no confusion there at all.

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Old Oct 9th, 2005, 22:51   #63
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>You can take the
>turbo and make it produce 1.3bar, but that's not really what
>it was intended to do. I take it that's what Dan Jones means
>by taking a standard turbo (e.g. 19T) and fitting it in place
>of another standard turbo (e.g. 16T) to get a substantial
>power increase. You may be able to rev the pants out off a
>19T to make it flow more air it was never designed to do that.

Sorry have to disagree again.

None of the turbos fitted to Volvos are working very hard at all. They all have plenty of overhead.

a 19T is not flowing anywhere near its capacity when on the car it is fitted as standard to, and as I think Adam has said before, it can safely and efficiently do 22psi all day long, but the engines it would be strapped to wouldn't cope unaltered!
Make no mistake a 19T is the big boy of the TD04 family.
People use 2 of these babys to get 700+HP out of Hayabusas for goodness sake!

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Old Oct 9th, 2005, 22:54   #64
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20Gs only come in TD05 form do they not?

Also just because something is not as 'hefty' doesn't mean it is not as strong. Remember the Japanese make just about anything better than anyone else.

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Default RE: TT turbo v Mitsubishi.

Hmmmm...ok let me put it another way.


A pc running windows xp is normal(standard). If i put windows xp on a mac (impossible i know) It's still a standard operating system.

If I write a new operating system or make modifications to an existing one it is no longer standard and it becomes a Hybrid.

If I have a pc running windows 98 and i install windows xp I have only upgraded the system, but i'm still using a standard operating system.

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Old Oct 9th, 2005, 22:58   #66
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>Hmmmm...ok let me put it another way.
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>A pc running windows xp is normal(standard). If i put windows
>xp on a mac (impossible i know) It's still a standard
>operating system.
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>If I write a new operating system or make modifications to an
>existing one it is no longer standard and it becomes a
>Hybrid.
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>If I have a pc running windows 98 and i install windows xp I
>have only upgraded the system, but i'm still using a standard
>operating system.
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So which windows version do I need to run 300 bhp?

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Default RE: TT turbo v Mitsubishi.

>Hmmmm...ok let me put it another way.
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>A pc running windows xp is normal(standard). If i put windows
>xp on a mac (impossible i know) It's still a standard
>operating system.
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>If I write a new operating system or make modifications to an
>existing one it is no longer standard and it becomes a
>Hybrid.
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>If I have a pc running windows 98 and i install windows xp I
>have only upgraded the system, but i'm still using a standard
>operating system.
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>Regards
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>Iain


Ahh yes, *but* none are standard for the application that you are now using them for.
This is the point; Just because a 19T is an off the shelf unit, in a standard configuration for that unit (it would have to be otherwise it would not have a designation in line with a family of others) does NOT make it *standard* in anything other than a car where it is original fitment.

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Default RE: TT turbo v Mitsubishi.

Dan, by putting a 19T into another car does not change the fact that it is still an off the shelf standard Turbo. The wording we are mixing up is *UPGRADE* (sorry to shout) Yes putting a 19T into a car it wasn't designed for is upgrading. But does not change the fact that it is still a standard off the shelf unit.


As the windows thing they would still be standard operating systems no matter what machine they where installed on. Unless edited to change there characteristics.

Adam, Roflmao..........:-)

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>Well, I'll just have to be in breach of the forum rules on
>this one. Perhaps I could ask if Don could supply interested
>parties the details of the ignition, fueling, and boost maps
>of his T5 software, so as not to breach forum rules.
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I believe I have requested at least some of this info a while back from Don, and have yet to receive an answer so stop with this breach of the rules nonsense Iain, as they don't appear to apply/work anyway.

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I have to agree they don't work do they.

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