General Volvos and chip fat

[RoyMacDonald]

Originally Posted by DLM48

i should add that modern HGV's have 'a blue tank ' (Was driving a brand new Volvo one today was nice but a bit gutless) 'i think' - i am not 100% sure that this is winter antifreeze how the vehicle knows when and how to mix it i know not modern lectronic diesels with CAN bus and similar things are just too new fangled for me - give me an inline mechanical pump any day he he. I have a few friends who should know one is a CAN Bus expert Terex dump trucks so i will make a few enquires and report back ASAP.

PILLOCK is me...............AD BLUE is an Urea Solution - Urea Solutions a range of urea solutions to treat exhaust and flue gasses to comply with environmental legislation.

32.5% Urea Solution is required by Euro 4 & 5 trucks fitted with SCR (Selective Catalyst Reaction) equipment. The 32.5% Urea Solution is the additive pumped into the exhaust stream via the SCR dosing unit to react with the NOx in the catalyst. This has the effect of reducing the NOx levels coming out of the exhaust stream and into the atmosphere. NOx have been associated with many health problems, and cause most acute problems in towns and city's where their concentration is highest.

I might be wrong but I think this is the emmission technology that Ken Livinston is planning to insist on for commercial vehicles entering London. Either a complete ban or £200 a day congestion charge without it.

Roy

[tfb]

Originally Posted by RoyMacDonald

Is that the 940 handbook? I can't find anything in my 2003 XC90 D5 handbook.



Roy

Yep, it's in the 940 handbook....I would imagine that your XC90 engine is a little bit more advanced than mine and probably wouldn't tolerate some of the things I have tipped in my tank and while I would be very upset if I killed the car, the financial loss wouldn't be too great.
Hmm..it's not just the formation of wax crystals thats the problem when SVO is cold but also it is so much thicker and would the additive cure that too I wonder? Hopefuly this is where the Elsbett injectors will help out. I'm not 100% convinced that the Elsbett one tank kit will work outside of summer, but I'll be happy if it does. With any luck I should finish fitting it over the next couple of weeks


rats...can't find the handbook to check the exact wording.

regards

TFB

[RoyMacDonald]

Originally Posted by tfb

Yep, it's in the 940 handbook....I would imagine that your XC90 engine is a little bit more advanced than mine and probably wouldn't tolerate some of the things I have tipped in my tank and while I would be very upset if I killed the car, the financial loss wouldn't be too great.
Hmm..it's not just the formation of wax crystals thats the problem when SVO is cold but also it is so much thicker and would the additive cure that too I wonder? Hopefuly this is where the Elsbett injectors will help out. I'm not 100% convinced that the Elsbett one tank kit will work outside of summer, but I'll be happy if it does. With any luck I should finish fitting it over the next couple of weeks


rats...can't find the handbook to check the exact wording.

regards

TFB

Elsbett say...."Add normal Winterdiesel to the vegetable oil in the tank in sub-zero temperatures." I don't think you'd need any extra additive in the UK unless it got seriously cold.

With the saving on the tax now you could afford to shorten the life of even new D5 diesel engine. The savings would pay for a new engine in very short space of time.

Roy

[tfb]

If you use your limit of 2500 litres of SVO a year, the the saving will be cira £1200, using WVO it would be circa £2250. But you are also driving around feeling all warm and happy knowing that you are not giving the government any money for your fuel and that is priceless!

Regards
TFB

[DLM48]

Originally Posted by tfb

Car is a 940 TD, milage is claimed to be 129,000 ( no idea if thats real or not)
The Elspbett kit was about £700. I'm not sure how much the bits would be if bought seperatley. The only bits that are custom made are the heat exchanger and the electric heater (not sure about the injectors). All the rest is commercial-of-the-shelf, i.e glow plugs are Bosch.

I did try 90% SVO and 10% petrol one weekend as an experiment, and it didn't like it at all, simply wouldn't start and siphoning it out was horrible!.

Yes, I agree the cold starting is the major issue so far for me and I have been toying with the idea of putting a timer on the electric fuel heater so that it comes on before I get up in the mornings. I have quite a few different ideas I'd like to try out, depending upon how things work out, but I think I'll end up using a two tank setup, which will negate any cold starting issues.

Regards
TFB

Do you have the Bosch part numbers of the glow plugs that Elsbett supplied? Also how are things going now? Is all of the kit installed now? If so how about updating the thread/ I just got my 945 SE TD now and raring to go - so going to build up my parts bin and probably install in the spring. For the winter i will just run a mixture of D/VO 60/40 and if the weather gets really cold a quick trip to the nearest diesel pump will quickly have that at an 80/20 mix.


Also does anyone have the Volvo part number for the Volvo Diesel Manual?

thanks in anticipation

[RoyMacDonald]

Originally Posted by DLM48

Do you have the Bosch part numbers of the glow plugs that Elsbett supplied? Also how are things going now? Is all of the kit installed now? If so how about updating the thread/ I just got my 945 SE TD now and raring to go - so going to build up my parts bin and probably install in the spring. For the winter i will just run a mixture of D/VO 60/40 and if the weather gets really cold a quick trip to the nearest diesel pump will quickly have that at an 80/20 mix.


Also does anyone have the Volvo part number for the Volvo Diesel Manual?

thanks in anticipation

Elsbett use a computer progam to analyze the original injector spray pattern and if they think it needs to be modified to be optimized for SOV they use modified injectors. If none are available off the shelf they modify existing ones or make their own. They do make complete engines specifically for SOV so they have a lot of expertise when it comes to the engineering.

Roy

[tfb]

Funny you should mention this, but today I finally got a free afternoon to whip out the injectors (well grunt and groan and swear at them) and get them over to a diesel specialist to have the new nozzles fitted and the opening pressures set. £40 later I have a new set of injectors to fit back in!.
While I have all the injectors out I'll replace 5 & 6 glowplugs, the absence of the injectors should make access a bit better, but I'll tell the kids to block their ears just in case .

If the weather is OK tomorrow I should get that done in the afternoon and then the installation of the kit will be complete. I would guess that you could do the complete job in about day or 2 days if you had a nice warm garage and no kids shouting "daaaad" every 5 minutes.

Most of the components of the kit seem to be of a good quality, the wires are all double insulated and the hoses are decent. The only things I wasn't impressed with were the T pieces for T-ing into the coolant pipes, they were made of ABS and were too big (18mm diameter) to fit into the pipes leading to/from the heater matrix, so I made some reducing T-pieces from copper plumbing pipe. The crimp spade connectors were a bit cheap too and ended up using my own. Some heatshrink sleeving would have been a good addition to the kit, luckily I have plenty of it. I'll make sure I note the part number of the glow plugs before I fit them and post the details.

On the whole I have been quite impressed with the kit. It was all nicely packed into little bags with part lists for each bag and the only extras I needed was the heatshrink sleeve, a few self-tapping screws and the home made T-pieces. The wiring diagram and manual were easy to follow as long as you have the general idea of what the kit is trying to achieve.

Regards

TFB

[DLM48]

Originally Posted by tfb

Funny you should mention this, but today I finally got a free afternoon to whip out the injectors (well grunt and groan and swear at them) and get them over to a diesel specialist to have the new nozzles fitted and the opening pressures set. £40 later I have a new set of injectors to fit back in!.
While I have all the injectors out I'll replace 5 & 6 glowplugs, the absence of the injectors should make access a bit better, but I'll tell the kids to block their ears just in case .

If the weather is OK tomorrow I should get that done in the afternoon and then the installation of the kit will be complete. I would guess that you could do the complete job in about day or 2 days if you had a nice warm garage and no kids shouting "daaaad" every 5 minutes.

Most of the components of the kit seem to be of a good quality, the wires are all double insulated and the hoses are decent. The only things I wasn't impressed with were the T pieces for T-ing into the coolant pipes, they were made of ABS and were too big (18mm diameter) to fit into the pipes leading to/from the heater matrix, so I made some reducing T-pieces from copper plumbing pipe. The crimp spade connectors were a bit cheap too and ended up using my own. Some heatshrink sleeving would have been a good addition to the kit, luckily I have plenty of it. I'll make sure I note the part number of the glow plugs before I fit them and post the details.

On the whole I have been quite impressed with the kit. It was all nicely packed into little bags with part lists for each bag and the only extras I needed was the heatshrink sleeve, a few self-tapping screws and the home made T-pieces. The wiring diagram and manual were easy to follow as long as you have the general idea of what the kit is trying to achieve.

Regards

TFB

sounds great i do hope you are going to pass all that info back to Elsbett so they can sort out these issues

[Paddler Ed]

Possibly one of the reasons why the 900's manual says to add petrol, but the D5 doesn't is that the fuel technology has improved.

In the early '80s my parents can remember regularlarily hearing of truck fires on the Cumbrian roads... the drivers would light a fire under the diesel tank to stop the fuel getting frozen. Unforunately it did catch fire and cause chaos

[tfb]

The part Nos. for the replacement Bosch glowplugs supplied in the kit is 0 250 201041.

Regards
TFB