Engine: D5: - Volvo oil spec for D5? - Page 6

Clan · Nov 29th, 2007, 22:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoyMacDonald

I was told my 2003 XC90 D5 engine came from the factory filled with Castrol R-tec. and that's what the main dealer who serviced contiued to use. Different dealers use alternative oils but it sounded sweeter that the other 5 cars with a D5 engines I test drove when I was looking for a second hand XC90, so I've no complaints about it.

Roy

There wouldnt have been R-Tec in a 2003 D5 from factory as Volvo still recommend Normal SLX Longtec for the D5 up until 2004 models when they recommend Longtec Professional for volvo cars ( R-Tec ) in 2005 and on D5's .....

What is the difference between Castrol SLX 0w/30 longtec and SLX 0w/30 R-Tec ?

chopper_harris · Nov 29th, 2007, 22:40

Amsoil - by the choice of your username you clearly have a vested interest. You are either an agent or distributor for their products, so will of course praise their products.

Volvo specify compliance with the European Automobile Manufacturers' Association (ACEA) B4 for the D5 engine.

A3/B4 Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use in high performance gasoline and direct injection diesel engines, but also suitable for applications described under the lower spec A3/B3 standard.

Volvo recommend Castrol oils, but that is a marketing relationship.

In the workshop, I've used Chevron Supreme 15-50 fully synth for about 5 years. It is great value in bulk, and meets the above standards (equivalent to US API-SJ standard).

If your D5 is out of warranty, and you want to love your engine but are on a budget, buy the best semi-synthetic you can afford. Be aware that the cheap semi's have a very low % of synthetic in the mix. If you can afford it, go fully synth.

Get down to GSF, and pick up a 6 pack of oil filters at a good discount.

Change the oil at 7,500 mile intervals with a new filter, it will still cost you less than half of what it would having a dealer do it.

The undertray is held on by 6 self tapping screws, and with the top mounted filter, there really is no excuse not to DIY.

Your engine will thank you for it

RoyMacDonald · Nov 29th, 2007, 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clan

There wouldnt have been R-Tec in a 2003 D5 from factory as Volvo still recommend Normal SLX Longtec for the D5 up until 2004 models when they recommend Longtec Professional for volvo cars ( R-Tec ) in 2005 and on D5's .....

What is the difference between Castrol SLX 0w/30 longtec and SLX 0w/30 R-Tec ?

I got this factory fill information from an inside source. What the publicity dept put out and what actually is the case seem to be two different things. Depends if you belive the publicity dept. or the technical dept. it seems.

You can see the different additive packages Castrol use if you compare their technical documents for the different oils. I don't think they give the specs for oils they no longer produce though.

http://www.castrol.com/castrol/displ...ategoryId=3206

For some reason Castrol Magnatec which has been around for about 6 years now so I suppose can be considered old technology has been withdrawn fom sale in the USA, and many other countries for some reason, and seems to be reaching a point where it's only availble in the UK and some other Common Market Countries. I belive there has been some critism of it. Does anyone have any more info? Could be something to do with the new US API spec issue I suppose.

Roy

amsoil · Nov 29th, 2007, 22:52

The Amsoil TSO 0w-30 is the very creme de la ... Its stronger than 40 weight oils, thin as you can get when cold and improves both power and MPG. Nothing beats it; its also stuffed with expensive additives that will allow it to go upto 35,000 miles as it says on the can so to speak. (but this is under ideal conditions so for general use figure on halving that) The new 0w-20 is good , but not as good as the TSO.
I am now getting really confused about Castrols Magnatec! Its quality/formulation seems to be different from country to country. (like Mobil 1) There are 3 versions in the UK of different qualities/ applications and it only appears that the 5w-30 may be synthetic from the scientists point of view (as opposed to the lawyers, following the US case which allows a hydrocracked mineral oil to be called synthetic!) All the other grades aren't, I do stand to be corrected here but I do think its a bit immoral to advertise Magnatec as synthetic, showing the 5w-30 when all the others just aren't. But Castrol do have form for this kind of thing.

RoyMacDonald · Nov 29th, 2007, 22:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by chopper_harris

Amsoil - by the choice of your username you clearly have a vested interest. You are either an agent or distributor for their products, so will of course praise their products.

Volvo specify compliance with the European Automobile Manufacturers' Association (ACEA) B4 for the D5 engine.

A3/B4 Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use in high performance gasoline and direct injection diesel engines, but also suitable for applications described under the lower spec A3/B3 standard.

Volvo recommend Castrol oils, but that is a marketing relationship.

In the workshop, I've used Chevron Supreme 15-50 fully synth for about 5 years. It is great value in bulk, and meets the above standards (equivalent to US API-SJ standard).

If your D5 is out of warranty, and you want to love your engine but are on a budget, buy the best semi-synthetic you can afford. Be aware that the cheap semi's have a very low % of synthetic in the mix. If you can afford it, go fully synth.

Get down to GSF, and pick up a 6 pack of oil filters at a good discount.

Change the oil at 7,500 mile intervals with a new filter, it will still cost you less than half of what it would having a dealer do it.

The undertray is held on by 6 self tapping screws, and with the top mounted filter, there really is no excuse not to DIY.

Your engine will thank you for it

Amsoil aranged the club discount and is quite open about his association.

Just read the oil tests and decide for yourself.

Castrol actually make the Volvo specific oil to meet Volvos wear/emission/economy requierments. They only supply it to Volvo.

Volvo do strive to impove all aspects of their engines, they've just developed belts with impoved wear characteristic that last for 10 years before needing a change, so I think you have to give them some credit for being interested in prolonging the life of your car.

Because an oil meets a specific standard doesn't mean it's going to give the best protection, and as far as I'm concerned if a current oil meets the latest API spec I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole, unless you enjoy engine rebuilds that is.

Roy

Sid60ish · Dec 3rd, 2007, 19:53

Went into my local Halfrauds at the weekend to buy 1 ltr of 0W-30 A5/B5 oil for my D5 - don't need any top-up yet but I'm old fashioned and like to have a drop about the place "just in case". No suitable oil on the shelves. Young assistant tells me that I don't really need a 0W-30 as any decent 5W-40 will do just as well. Thank you for your advice and goodbye. Scary.

111 · Dec 3rd, 2007, 21:26

These guys are doing what looks like the same Amsoil 0w-30 2000 for £49.50 delivered for 1 x 5 ltr's or 2 x 5ltrs for £92.60 or 4 x 5ltrs for £179 all include Vat. Is this the same stuff as there is no mention of ACEA A5/B5 on the spec sheet, just ACEA A1/B1,A2/B2,A3/B3 ????

This is form a quote from a Clio site!

"So, winter is at last here and we are offering a great range of 0w and 5w oils as our last offer for 2005, ALL CARRIAGE FREE of course so what you see here is what you pay!

This offer is open From 9.00am on Monday 28th November until Midday Wednesday 14th December, Just call my trusty Brother Guy on 01209 215164 to order before the deadline!"

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/performanc...ts/amsoil.aspx

RoyMacDonald · Dec 4th, 2007, 00:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by 111

These guys are doing what looks like the same Amsoil 0w-30 2000 for £49.50 delivered for 1 x 5 ltr's or 2 x 5ltrs for £92.60 or 4 x 5ltrs for £179 all include Vat. Is this the same stuff as there is no mention of ACEA A5/B5 on the spec sheet, just ACEA A1/B1,A2/B2,A3/B3 ????

This is form a quote from a Clio site!

"So, winter is at last here and we are offering a great range of 0w and 5w oils as our last offer for 2005, ALL CARRIAGE FREE of course so what you see here is what you pay!

This offer is open From 9.00am on Monday 28th November until Midday Wednesday 14th December, Just call my trusty Brother Guy on 01209 215164 to order before the deadline!"

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/performanc...ts/amsoil.aspx

Spec sheets I've seen do confirm... You could try the Amsoil web site or this one...

http://www.performanceoilsltd.co.uk/0w-30(2000).html

Roy

PS I'm not sure that your link is to the correct spec sheet.

111 · Dec 4th, 2007, 17:59

I've just been in through the members part & it's Amsoil Synthetic 2000 0w-30 is
1 x 5 litres 5 was £49.99 now £44.99 On Offer!
Amsoil Synthetic 2000 0w-30
2 x 5 litres 10 was £92.99 now £83.69 On Offer!
Amsoil Synthetic 2000 0w-30
4 x 5 litres 20 was £179.99 now £161.99 On Offer

Looks like a bargain. If it is spec A5/B5 ??

amsoil · Dec 5th, 2007, 01:29

Chek this link http://www.performanceoilsltd.co.uk/0w-30(2000).html
underneath the graph is shows the A5/B5 bit you mention.

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Dec 3rd, 2007, 21:26	#57
111 Darkest Stockton-on-Tees Last Online: Jan 17th, 2024 08:06 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Stockton-on-Tees	These guys are doing what looks like the same Amsoil 0w-30 2000 for £49.50 delivered for 1 x 5 ltr's or 2 x 5ltrs for £92.60 or 4 x 5ltrs for £179 all include Vat. Is this the same stuff as there is no mention of ACEA A5/B5 on the spec sheet, just ACEA A1/B1,A2/B2,A3/B3 ???? This is form a quote from a Clio site! "So, winter is at last here and we are offering a great range of 0w and 5w oils as our last offer for 2005, ALL CARRIAGE FREE of course so what you see here is what you pay! This offer is open From 9.00am on Monday 28th November until Midday Wednesday 14th December, Just call my trusty Brother Guy on 01209 215164 to order before the deadline!" http://www.opieoils.co.uk/performanc...ts/amsoil.aspx Last edited by 111; Dec 3rd, 2007 at 21:48.

Dec 4th, 2007, 17:59	#59
111 Darkest Stockton-on-Tees Last Online: Jan 17th, 2024 08:06 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Stockton-on-Tees	I've just been in through the members part & it's Amsoil Synthetic 2000 0w-30 is 1 x 5 litres 5 was £49.99 now £44.99 On Offer! Amsoil Synthetic 2000 0w-30 2 x 5 litres 10 was £92.99 now £83.69 On Offer! Amsoil Synthetic 2000 0w-30 4 x 5 litres 20 was £179.99 now £161.99 On Offer Looks like a bargain. If it is spec A5/B5 ?? Last edited by 111; Dec 4th, 2007 at 18:04.

Nov 29th, 2007, 22:40	#52
chopper_harris Senior Member Last Online: Jan 1st, 2022 18:09 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Standish	Amsoil - by the choice of your username you clearly have a vested interest. You are either an agent or distributor for their products, so will of course praise their products. Volvo specify compliance with the European Automobile Manufacturers' Association (ACEA) B4 for the D5 engine. A3/B4 Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use in high performance gasoline and direct injection diesel engines, but also suitable for applications described under the lower spec A3/B3 standard. Volvo recommend Castrol oils, but that is a marketing relationship. In the workshop, I've used Chevron Supreme 15-50 fully synth for about 5 years. It is great value in bulk, and meets the above standards (equivalent to US API-SJ standard). If your D5 is out of warranty, and you want to love your engine but are on a budget, buy the best semi-synthetic you can afford. Be aware that the cheap semi's have a very low % of synthetic in the mix. If you can afford it, go fully synth. Get down to GSF, and pick up a 6 pack of oil filters at a good discount. Change the oil at 7,500 mile intervals with a new filter, it will still cost you less than half of what it would having a dealer do it. The undertray is held on by 6 self tapping screws, and with the top mounted filter, there really is no excuse not to DIY. Your engine will thank you for it

Nov 29th, 2007, 22:52	#54
amsoil Member Last Online: May 28th, 2014 22:54 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oxford	The Amsoil TSO 0w-30 is the very creme de la ... Its stronger than 40 weight oils, thin as you can get when cold and improves both power and MPG. Nothing beats it; its also stuffed with expensive additives that will allow it to go upto 35,000 miles as it says on the can so to speak. (but this is under ideal conditions so for general use figure on halving that) The new 0w-20 is good , but not as good as the TSO. I am now getting really confused about Castrols Magnatec! Its quality/formulation seems to be different from country to country. (like Mobil 1) There are 3 versions in the UK of different qualities/ applications and it only appears that the 5w-30 may be synthetic from the scientists point of view (as opposed to the lawyers, following the US case which allows a hydrocracked mineral oil to be called synthetic!) All the other grades aren't, I do stand to be corrected here but I do think its a bit immoral to advertise Magnatec as synthetic, showing the 5w-30 when all the others just aren't. But Castrol do have form for this kind of thing.

Dec 5th, 2007, 01:29	#60
amsoil Member Last Online: May 28th, 2014 22:54 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oxford	Chek this link http://www.performanceoilsltd.co.uk/0w-30(2000).html underneath the graph is shows the A5/B5 bit you mention.

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