Occasional non-starting, my newer Sport - Page 5

rogerthechorister · Mar 5th, 2015, 16:06

Right, leaving general VOlvoguard questions to the new thread I started (although I would say that a lot of the stuff has been very useful thanks) - I just had a no-start on the one that was playing me about over starting.

Turned key, fired and started to run, then fluffed out. Just like (in the old days) a car that needed a bit more choke. Went perfectly second time.

So we wait and see some more...

Steve940estate · Mar 5th, 2015, 20:23

It doesn't sound like a relay problem when you describe it like that. I think they either work or not. The only way to be 100% sure is to either fit a new one or check the one you have fitted.
I can't think of anything you haven't already tried to be honest.

rogerthechorister · Mar 5th, 2015, 22:02

Well, all I have actually done is to swap the Radio suppression relay - the ECU swap[p[ery was looking for a different fault and I would not ahve registered thingystarting.

I'll wait and see what develops.

Then it might be immobiliser unit time"! Groo.

rogerthechorister · Mar 6th, 2015, 13:08

Right, she did it again. So it defnitely is NOT the radio suppression relay.

Locking and unlocking door - no change.

BUT stop to talk to the postman, (all very Midsomer Murders, innit) then use the other set of keys - and bingo.

Now that might just be that it is an intermittent fault - or it MIGHT be the fat key failing to talk reliably to the immobiliser module. Well, I ahve an immobiliser module and some plippers for it (allegedly) - but I wonder if I have a fat key for that immobiliser. I suspect Mr Volvo can sort out a key for the spare immo module - or maybe a new key for the unchanged immo module - at some expense.

We shall see if I get home again. Off to sunny Croydon!

Rversteeg · Mar 6th, 2015, 17:03

My experience with a faulty immo module is that the engine will crank and run, but only for one or two seconds. The MIL will stay on during that time.

rogerthechorister · Mar 7th, 2015, 15:34

I'll have to watch the lambda light every time I try to start and report back. But so far so good using the other fat key.

oldskullpete · Mar 7th, 2015, 17:18

Interesting it it is just the key causing the issue, sounds very similar to a problem i had with the lambda sensor. Changed that and it went away.

rogerthechorister · Mar 7th, 2015, 17:50

You mean "if it"?

rogerthechorister · Mar 11th, 2015, 09:21

Sticking to the key I think is better, so far 4 days and counting, no hesitation to start at all. Interesting!

rogerthechorister · Mar 22nd, 2015, 12:18

Well, I don't use this one every day, sometimes I use a different one off the list in my signature, but since March 11 there has been NO failure to start, using the good key. Yesterday I tried with the suspect key and got a no-start immediately, changed keys and fine. Today I tried the suspect key and she ran. I still think this looks very like the keys are the key (so to speak). When I take her to the actual Volvo dealer not too far away in order to sort out plippers I will rationalise the keys so that I have two complete sets - over time they have evolved to ignition, driver's door, and boot all different!

Mar 5th, 2015, 16:06	#41
rogerthechorister Rogerthechorister Last Online: Dec 16th, 2023 02:15 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rochester	Maybe it wasn't that Right, leaving general VOlvoguard questions to the new thread I started (although I would say that a lot of the stuff has been very useful thanks) - I just had a no-start on the one that was playing me about over starting. Turned key, fired and started to run, then fluffed out. Just like (in the old days) a car that needed a bit more choke. Went perfectly second time. So we wait and see some more... __________________ B234F estate, H reg 100k miles. RIP melted B280E. 760T estate, F reg 133k miles. 940 Sport M90 estate, N reg 170k miles. 940 Sport M90 estate, N reg 100k miles, ex Lovejoy. 960 Estate, N reg, 56k miles, blown up and sold.

Mar 5th, 2015, 22:02	#43
rogerthechorister Rogerthechorister Last Online: Dec 16th, 2023 02:15 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rochester	Well... Well, all I have actually done is to swap the Radio suppression relay - the ECU swap[p[ery was looking for a different fault and I would not ahve registered thingystarting. I'll wait and see what develops. Then it might be immobiliser unit time"! Groo. __________________ B234F estate, H reg 100k miles. RIP melted B280E. 760T estate, F reg 133k miles. 940 Sport M90 estate, N reg 170k miles. 940 Sport M90 estate, N reg 100k miles, ex Lovejoy. 960 Estate, N reg, 56k miles, blown up and sold.

Mar 6th, 2015, 13:08	#44
rogerthechorister Rogerthechorister Last Online: Dec 16th, 2023 02:15 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rochester	Ah-hah (maybe) Right, she did it again. So it defnitely is NOT the radio suppression relay. Locking and unlocking door - no change. BUT stop to talk to the postman, (all very Midsomer Murders, innit) then use the other set of keys - and bingo. Now that might just be that it is an intermittent fault - or it MIGHT be the fat key failing to talk reliably to the immobiliser module. Well, I ahve an immobiliser module and some plippers for it (allegedly) - but I wonder if I have a fat key for that immobiliser. I suspect Mr Volvo can sort out a key for the spare immo module - or maybe a new key for the unchanged immo module - at some expense. We shall see if I get home again. Off to sunny Croydon! __________________ B234F estate, H reg 100k miles. RIP melted B280E. 760T estate, F reg 133k miles. 940 Sport M90 estate, N reg 170k miles. 940 Sport M90 estate, N reg 100k miles, ex Lovejoy. 960 Estate, N reg, 56k miles, blown up and sold.

Mar 6th, 2015, 17:03	#45
Rversteeg Master Member Last Online: Today 13:52 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Amersfoort (NL)	Did it fire? My experience with a faulty immo module is that the engine will crank and run, but only for one or two seconds. The MIL will stay on during that time.

Mar 7th, 2015, 15:34	#46
rogerthechorister Rogerthechorister Last Online: Dec 16th, 2023 02:15 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rochester	Well- I'll have to watch the lambda light every time I try to start and report back. But so far so good using the other fat key. __________________ B234F estate, H reg 100k miles. RIP melted B280E. 760T estate, F reg 133k miles. 940 Sport M90 estate, N reg 170k miles. 940 Sport M90 estate, N reg 100k miles, ex Lovejoy. 960 Estate, N reg, 56k miles, blown up and sold.

Mar 5th, 2015, 20:23	#42
Steve940estate Steam Driven PC Owner. Last Online: Mar 4th, 2024 23:50 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Not sure.	It doesn't sound like a relay problem when you describe it like that. I think they either work or not. The only way to be 100% sure is to either fit a new one or check the one you have fitted. I can't think of anything you haven't already tried to be honest.

Mar 7th, 2015, 17:18	#47
oldskullpete Junior Member Last Online: Nov 22nd, 2015 07:42 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: aylesbury	Interesting it it is just the key causing the issue, sounds very similar to a problem i had with the lambda sensor. Changed that and it went away.

Mar 7th, 2015, 17:50	#48
rogerthechorister Rogerthechorister Last Online: Dec 16th, 2023 02:15 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rochester	If? You mean "if it"? __________________ B234F estate, H reg 100k miles. RIP melted B280E. 760T estate, F reg 133k miles. 940 Sport M90 estate, N reg 170k miles. 940 Sport M90 estate, N reg 100k miles, ex Lovejoy. 960 Estate, N reg, 56k miles, blown up and sold.

Mar 11th, 2015, 09:21	#49
rogerthechorister Rogerthechorister Last Online: Dec 16th, 2023 02:15 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rochester	4 days and counting.... Sticking to the key I think is better, so far 4 days and counting, no hesitation to start at all. Interesting! __________________ B234F estate, H reg 100k miles. RIP melted B280E. 760T estate, F reg 133k miles. 940 Sport M90 estate, N reg 170k miles. 940 Sport M90 estate, N reg 100k miles, ex Lovejoy. 960 Estate, N reg, 56k miles, blown up and sold.

Mar 22nd, 2015, 12:18	#50
rogerthechorister Rogerthechorister Last Online: Dec 16th, 2023 02:15 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rochester	Key! Well, I don't use this one every day, sometimes I use a different one off the list in my signature, but since March 11 there has been NO failure to start, using the good key. Yesterday I tried with the suspect key and got a no-start immediately, changed keys and fine. Today I tried the suspect key and she ran. I still think this looks very like the keys are the key (so to speak). When I take her to the actual Volvo dealer not too far away in order to sort out plippers I will rationalise the keys so that I have two complete sets - over time they have evolved to ignition, driver's door, and boot all different! __________________ B234F estate, H reg 100k miles. RIP melted B280E. 760T estate, F reg 133k miles. 940 Sport M90 estate, N reg 170k miles. 940 Sport M90 estate, N reg 100k miles, ex Lovejoy. 960 Estate, N reg, 56k miles, blown up and sold.

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