Steering: 70: Which power steering fluid?

[jamesferns]

Originally Posted by 960kg

EXACTLY my point, there is no need to only for really cold climates.

My link shows to you there all at it including Ford, they want you to mess up your system by bringing in an alternative that nobody know`s about unless they read the small print in there wrong handbook ,but then it`s too late, money down the drain!!

ATF has been fine for donkeys years.

Considering scandanavia is subject to very cold winters( -35c last time i was over there) and volvo export their cars world wide then cold weather performance is a big issue

[RUTV70]

Originally Posted by Rick Barton

Please refer to my previous posting. If you have a 99MY car you should be using Pentosin, as correctly stated in the 99MY handbook. You clearly have the wrong handbook and you are letting this confuse you. I will send you a photocopy of the correct page of the 99MY handbook if you like, to put your mind at rest.

Thanks, Rick...but I'm quite happy to accept what you say..it's definitely Pentosin that's in now..and that's how it will stay.!
(as you say...incorrect handbook)

Neil

[960kg]

Originally Posted by jamesferns

Considering scandanavia is subject to very cold winters( -35c last time i was over there) and volvo export their cars world wide then cold weather performance is a big issue

I have an Aunt in Norway so i do know how cold it can get.

We don`t live in a freezing cold climate, you might but i don`t!

I know we have all different opinions but how long has it taken for the manufacturers to realise it is cold in Canada and Scandinavia, how long have we used ATF for? It is all progress which we either like of we don`t!
As said before some older owners don`t know they have to put in the later fluid until it`s too late and that is what i disagree with. These updates are not advertised enough, hence all this fuss on this thread. Quite rightly as well.

[dickiemint1312]

checked my 2002 C70 today.....

It has red ATF in it. owners handbook for the car states chf 11s which is the green stuff.

Need to flush it I think...

[MikeS100]

Wow, old thread!

Yes, should be chf in a 2002 C70. When I bought mine the dealer had topped up with dexron 3, only took 30 minutes or so to flush through and replace with chf.

Easiest way to check is looking at the power steering reservoir cap, the insides are coloured. Green if it left the factory with chf in or red if it had dexron 3. That's assuming it's still the original reservoir cap of course!

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[dickiemint1312]

Originally Posted by MikeS100

Wow, old thread!

Yes, should be chf in a 2002 C70. When I bought mine the dealer had topped up with dexron 3, only took 30 minutes or so to flush through and replace with chf.

Easiest way to check is looking at the power steering reservoir cap, the insides are coloured. Green if it left the factory with chf in or red if it had dexron 3. That's assuming it's still the original reservoir cap of course!

Didn't know about inside the cap... Checked today and it is indeed green in the lid.

Have sucked the fluid out as much as I can and refilled with green. will run it a day or two and do the same again a few times and flush it through.

[acshortt5]

Originally Posted by dickiemint1312

Didn't know about inside the cap... Checked today and it is indeed green in the lid.

Have sucked the fluid out as much as I can and refilled with green. will run it a day or two and do the same again a few times and flush it through.

Don't just go by the inside of the cap. Eg mine is green on the inside but takes red atf fluid... Because I replaced the cap with a new one.

Afaik if the reservoir tank is mounted on the engine it takes red atf fluid. If it's mounted on the wing next to the coolant tank then it takes the green stuff. No doubt someone will come along with an exception to that rule though lol!

[ITSv40]

I am seriously confused.

My 2001 V40 should have ATF in the power steering and having checked today it is indeed ATF - a nice red colour like rosehip syrup.

My 2003 C70 should have Pentosin according to the book and the green cap. Having checked the fluid it is a sandy brown colour - the same shade as Richtea biscuits.

I am familiar with ATF and know what it should look like, but not so with Pentosin, I assume it should be a distinctive shade of green. The fluid is very clean and I thought for a moment that ATF had been added to original Pentosin but if that was the case it would be a dark tan colour , not the clean sandy brown.

I bought the car 2 weeks ago, full service history by an independent garage - same garage - for most of it and has only done 52,000mls. Every other service item is as it should be, all fluid levels spot on the max mark and even all four tyre pressures correct psi. Every indication is that the servicing has been done with care, so not sure why the fluid is not the colour I was expecting. Any thoughts much appreciated.

[MikeS100]

It should still look green when wiped on a paper towel but I wouldn't expect it to be as prominent as when the fluid is new. That's what it's like in mine anyway. At first glance the fluid can look a bit biscuit coloured in some light.