2002 S80 2.4 170 auto project

[stuart bowes]

oh I getcha, you mean like buying it with a loan sort of finance

[Kev0607]

Originally Posted by nick66

Although that W210 was the nicest and least rusty I have seen,still needed cutting out of wheelarch and sill,luckily I done it in Croatia for 150 quid,would probably cost me 4 to 5 times that here.My V70 in comparison only has a bit of bubbling on A pillar above side mirror...

W210's are rust buckets. You'll struggle to find one that isn't falling apart.

[nick66]

I think when it comes to car finance most people only see monthly figure,like phones on contracts.Like 400 quid a month is not a lot...but times 12,times number of years...you can buy a banger with MOT every month...

[Kev0607]

Originally Posted by stuart bowes

oh I getcha, you mean like buying it with a loan sort of finance

Well, not the 2002 V70 lol.

I just mean owning an older car & spending money on repairs (within reason) is still far cheaper than buying a car on finance or PCP.

Originally Posted by nick66

I think when it comes to car finance most people only see monthly figure,like phones on contracts.Like 400 quid a month is not a lot...but times 12,times number of years...you can buy a banger with MOT every month...

Agreed.

Originally Posted by nick66

I actually wanted another mercedes,but only with M112/113 engine,and with 722.6 auto,and only E class,could not find anything.My boss bought 2004 V70 2.4 auto,about 3 years ago,1 owner,and what owner,the car was literally like new,inside and out,60000 miles..I borrowed it few times and really liked it,coupled with relative ease of DIYing,longevity and no rust issues I bought 2002 V70 2.4 170 manual with about 118k,mainly because I was reading too much about Geartronics troubles.I don't regret buying V70,but manual does not gel with me.However , compared with old e-class it is noisier,narrower,rattlier and ride on 17 inch 225/45 is not for me...I took mercedes when it was 18 year old on 5000 miles tour of Europe and it was fantastic,after I converted it LPG it was costing me Micra money in petrol, or LPG rather...

Was your E Class an estate? I don't think the V70 is as big as the Merc estate, so that may explain the narrowness.

[nick66]

Originally Posted by Kev0607

W210's are rust buckets. You'll struggle to find one that isn't falling apart.

Funnily enough I had 3 , none was actually that bad and rust was not structural,at least on my 3...paid 500,750 and two dinners and a bottle of wine respectively..first got killed of by gearbox trouble at 170k,second I sold on for 650 and the last for a grand,but as I explained above it was cheap.You can see it on RetroRides ,MercDan thread called y - Yep,I got another Merc

[nick66]

Originally Posted by Kev0607

Well, not the 2002 V70 lol.

I just mean owning an older car & spending money on repairs (within reason) is still far cheaper than buying a car on finance or PCP.



Agreed.



Was your E Class an estate? I don't think the V70 is as big as the Merc estate, so that may explain the narrowness.

No it was a saloon,but w210 are really spacious inside in the way modern cars aren't..you are not hemmed in by pillars,very wide footwels and seats,nice soft ride on Elegance trim...I miss it already...Bloody ULEZ,only reason I got rid of it

[Kev0607]

Originally Posted by nick66

Funnily enough I had 3 , none was actually that bad and rust was not structural,at least on my 3...paid 500,750 and two dinners and a bottle of wine respectively..first got killed of by gearbox trouble at 170k,second I sold on for 650 and the last for a grand,but as I explained above it was cheap.You can see it on RetroRides ,MercDan thread called y - Yep,I got another Merc

I think the V70 you bought & the Merc E Class are practically the same width. Merc is longer though.

I get what you mean about modern cars feeling cramped though.

[nick66]

Originally Posted by Kev0607

I think the V70 you bought & the Merc E Class are practically the same width. Merc is longer though.

Feels significantly smaller inside,narrower footwell,seat can't really be pushed that far back,and relatively cramped rear seats,legroom wise,trim is also squeky/rattly.Seats,however are fantastic,rustproofing also fantastic,generally really well made in unpretentious way,unlike say VW/Audi that,to me look higher quality then they really are...Front/rear wheel drive does not bother me,being slow driver in general,but Merc was incredibly easy to park,I could see the nose of the car,and with excellent turning circle you could squeeze it anywhere,Volvo is bit challenged in that respect,to put it mildly.

[stuart bowes]

mine felt huge at first but then I began to realise what small spaces I could get it into .. so to speak

when I put a reversing camera on it though that made things a lot easier, it is a bit guesswork otherwise, mine doesn't have beepers

It's probably the most spacious I've owned tbh, the seat goes back futher than I would need and I'm 6'2 with pretty long legs.. agreed the back seats could have more room but then the boot space well makes up for it. and my rear passengers are 6 and 4 so they dont really need a lot of space in fairness

[Kev0607]

Originally Posted by nick66

Feels significantly smaller inside,narrower footwell,seat can't really be pushed that far back,and relatively cramped rear seats,legroom wise,trim is also squeky/rattly.Seats,however are fantastic,rustproofing also fantastic,generally really well made in unpretentious way,unlike say VW/Audi that,to me look higher quality then they really are...Front/rear wheel drive does not bother me,being slow driver in general,but Merc was incredibly easy to park,I could see the nose of the car,and with excellent turning circle you could squeeze it anywhere,Volvo is bit challenged in that respect,to put it mildly.

I understand what you mean. For such a big estate car, the rear leg room is woeful in my opinion. I've sat in small hatchbacks that have similar leg room in the back seats!

The newer V70 (2008 onwards) feels much more spacious inside, comparatively to the shape you have. Its also a bigger car, so rear leg room is better. I can have the seat fully back in my dad's V70 estate (newer shape) & there's still room for someone well over 6ft to sit in comfort. Glad that they improved the leg room on the newer model, as that's one of the things that put me off the older shape being honest.

So what's your plans going forward?