Body/Trim: 850: - Window Tints - Page 3

greenone · Dec 28th, 2007, 14:56

Hi,

Maybe I can clarify things. I am a Road Policing (traffic cop) Officer with an east of London force.

The legislation states that the side windows in front of the B post (what the driver looks out of) must allow at least 70% of available light through. The front windscreen must allow at least 75% of available light through. When the glass is manufactured it is tinted to that limit. The markings AS1 (windscreen) and AS2 (side windows) denote that. As far as Con and Use regs blah blah are concerned anything that changes it to a greater level of tint is is illegal. MOT testers are getting equipment to measure this soon, i am told!

Obviously there are different levels of being naughty.....My force uses the ACPO guidelines which say, between 75% - 50% - advice; 50% - 25% - £30 ticket, below 25% - 3points £60 ticket for vehicle in dangerous condition.

It has already been commented on how insurance companies may deal with the matter. If you have your front side windows tinted below 25% a traffic cop can and most do, prohibit the vehicle from being driven till the tint has been removed. Think about this one, if you are involved in a crash and the tints may have contributed to the reason why you crashed.........for example, if you didn't see the moped rider because he didn't have his lights on ....... you by definition will have been driving dangerously, if the rider were to die thats S1 Death by Dangerous Driving - oops! just because you wanted to make your car look different.

I don't want to be a bah humbug but keep the tints behind the B post or better still in my opinion keep it as Mr Volvo designing it.

I'll sit back and wait for the replies.......

John

PNuT · Dec 28th, 2007, 15:10

id rather the police started handing out the penalties listed above for t***s driving with frozen windows.....

probably too busy money spinning picking on safe drivers

JD.7 · Dec 28th, 2007, 15:12

glad to hear from a policeman who knows , i phoned Martlesham headquaters twice and got 2 different replies....neither correct.

i agree the insurance companies would love a good reason not to settle a claim in full because of the front tints.

Gary

Hezi · Dec 28th, 2007, 15:42

Hi John,

Cheers,the law even makes sense with this one

Steve

greenone · Dec 28th, 2007, 16:10

Hi

PNuT, I can assure you that if me and my colleagues see a vehicle where for WHAT EVER reason the drivers view of the road is obscured they are dealt with accordingly.

John

PNuT · Dec 28th, 2007, 16:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenone

Hi

PNuT, I can assure you that if me and my colleagues see a vehicle where for WHAT EVER reason the drivers view of the road is obscured they are dealt with accordingly.

John

im a bit of a sceptic when it comes to police booking people when its nearing the end of the shift......

Paul Clifton · Dec 28th, 2007, 16:41

"MOT testers are getting equipment to measure this soon, i am told!"

Not heard or seen anything about this yet John.

Paul.

JD.7 · Dec 28th, 2007, 18:36

i get my MOT cert. via email so they can`t test my tinting.

Paul Clifton · Dec 28th, 2007, 18:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD.7

i get my MOT cert. via email so they can`t test my tinting.

????????????????????????

Paul.

JD.7 · Dec 28th, 2007, 19:34

my local MOT station hates the fact good cars need to turn up for a check and email the new cert to save adding to carbon footprint. this way they can do an MOT in less than 5 mins. lol

Dec 28th, 2007, 15:10	#22
PNuT MaDMaN Last Online: Nov 26th, 2022 18:47 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Red Lodge	id rather the police started handing out the penalties listed above for t***s driving with frozen windows..... probably too busy money spinning picking on safe drivers __________________

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Hezi VOC Member Last Online: May 3rd, 2015 07:40 Join Date: May 2007 Location: lincs	Hi John, Cheers,the law even makes sense with this one Steve __________________ The little black tractor!

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Paul Clifton Paul Clifton Last Online: Jul 18th, 2023 15:50 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wisbech View Photos By: Paul Clifton	Mot "MOT testers are getting equipment to measure this soon, i am told!" Not heard or seen anything about this yet John. Paul. __________________ Paul Clifton. A man's knowledge can never outweigh his experience.

Dec 28th, 2007, 14:56	#21
greenone Member Last Online: Dec 9th, 2021 08:36 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Frinton	Hi, Maybe I can clarify things. I am a Road Policing (traffic cop) Officer with an east of London force. The legislation states that the side windows in front of the B post (what the driver looks out of) must allow at least 70% of available light through. The front windscreen must allow at least 75% of available light through. When the glass is manufactured it is tinted to that limit. The markings AS1 (windscreen) and AS2 (side windows) denote that. As far as Con and Use regs blah blah are concerned anything that changes it to a greater level of tint is is illegal. MOT testers are getting equipment to measure this soon, i am told! Obviously there are different levels of being naughty.....My force uses the ACPO guidelines which say, between 75% - 50% - advice; 50% - 25% - £30 ticket, below 25% - 3points £60 ticket for vehicle in dangerous condition. It has already been commented on how insurance companies may deal with the matter. If you have your front side windows tinted below 25% a traffic cop can and most do, prohibit the vehicle from being driven till the tint has been removed. Think about this one, if you are involved in a crash and the tints may have contributed to the reason why you crashed.........for example, if you didn't see the moped rider because he didn't have his lights on ....... you by definition will have been driving dangerously, if the rider were to die thats S1 Death by Dangerous Driving - oops! just because you wanted to make your car look different. I don't want to be a bah humbug but keep the tints behind the B post or better still in my opinion keep it as Mr Volvo designing it. I'll sit back and wait for the replies....... John

Dec 28th, 2007, 15:12	#23
JD.7 VOC Member Last Online: May 21st, 2024 11:20 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Suffolk but who cares ;)	glad to hear from a policeman who knows , i phoned Martlesham headquaters twice and got 2 different replies....neither correct. i agree the insurance companies would love a good reason not to settle a claim in full because of the front tints. Gary

Dec 28th, 2007, 16:10	#25
greenone Member Last Online: Dec 9th, 2021 08:36 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Frinton	Hi PNuT, I can assure you that if me and my colleagues see a vehicle where for WHAT EVER reason the drivers view of the road is obscured they are dealt with accordingly. John

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JD.7 VOC Member Last Online: May 21st, 2024 11:20 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Suffolk but who cares ;)	i get my MOT cert. via email so they can`t test my tinting.

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JD.7 VOC Member Last Online: May 21st, 2024 11:20 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Suffolk but who cares ;)	my local MOT station hates the fact good cars need to turn up for a check and email the new cert to save adding to carbon footprint. this way they can do an MOT in less than 5 mins. lol

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