Millstone motors in weymouth - Page 3

mike rice · May 15th, 2016, 07:04

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Originally Posted by bob12

It's a VERY sad tale, and unfortunately all to often common in today's world. Unfortunately the perpetrators don't often get their just dues nor do the victims get recompense.

Not knowing the full detail's and whilst I have great sympathy; I just don't understand why people still get conned into this kind of totally stupid thing. There is just so much publicity and warning about fraud of this nature.

Is it worth me contacting eBay and let them know there's a conman using the site

kieran40 · May 15th, 2016, 07:08

Yes deffo mike

mike rice · May 15th, 2016, 07:15

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Originally Posted by kieran40

Yes deffo mike

What are the chances of my dad getting his money back

kieran40 · May 15th, 2016, 07:31

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Originally Posted by mike rice

What are the chances of my dad getting his money back

Did he pay them through ebay, a credit card or something like that a good chance then, but if he just put the cash in their bank account it's going to be harder. I hope he does people like this are scum. If you can trace the scumbag you could take out a private summons and if he ignores that you can take it to the high court and they will employ high court bailiffs to get youre money back but it's just the annoyance and time it takes. I'm sure you've seen if you can't pay we will take it away

mike rice · May 15th, 2016, 07:37

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Originally Posted by kieran40

Did he pay them through ebay, a credit card or something like that a good chance then, but if he just put the cash in their bank account it's going to be harder. I hope he does people like this are scum. If you can trace the scumbag you could take out a private summons and if he ignores that you can take it to the high court and they will employ high court bailiffs to get youre money back but it's just the annoyance and time it takes. I'm sure you've seen if you can't pay we will take it away

Didn't pay through eBay, he done a bank transfer straight to his account

kieran40 · May 15th, 2016, 08:05

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Originally Posted by mike rice

Didn't pay through eBay, he done a bank transfer straight to his account

It will be harder have you chatted to the bank, a private summons is about £40 or something like that and it's usually enough too spur action due to credit file being damaged etc, county court is where you lodge it.

mike rice · May 15th, 2016, 08:35

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Originally Posted by kieran40

It will be harder have you chatted to the bank, a private summons is about £40 or something like that and it's usually enough too spur action due to credit file being damaged etc, county court is where you lodge it.

Haven't spoken to bank yet as we only found out sat pm he'd been done. We've still got all the paperwork with account number and sort code for his bank

NigelDay · May 15th, 2016, 08:40

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Originally Posted by kieran40

It will be harder have you chatted to the bank, a private summons is about £40 or something like that and it's usually enough too spur action due to credit file being damaged etc, county court is where you lodge it.

Yes, County Court is the way to go. Cheap and effective. Suggest a recorded delivery 'letter before action' giving them 7 days to refund the money, then put the CC claim in on-line. Chances are they will not turn up in Court. Then you will win the case and be awarded the full claim. You then may have to pay a small (£30 ?) extra fee for the CC Bailiffs to enforce judgement. Chances of success I think are quite high.

Simon Jones · May 15th, 2016, 08:48

Just to play Devils advocate for one minute: the car was due to be delivered Saturday and so far has not arrived, and they haven't answered the phone. Perhaps the chap was in the process of driving it up to Ipswich and there has been a problem on the way?

Before I rang the other week to enquire about the XC70, I did a quick search online for the seller and found no signs of any reviews for a 'family run business ... with over 30 years experience in the motor industry' which did seem a bit strange.

I don't think there is much that eBay will be able to do as it was a classified ad rather than an auction so the transaction was outside of their control. The purchase was not made with PayPay or a credit card so there is minimal protection with a bank transfer but it may be worth contacting the bank in the morning to see if they can offer some assistance.

Jonny v50 · May 15th, 2016, 09:15

Hello
I have had two friends scammed by this as well. The same Volvo XC70 for sale at £6000. The car was supposed to be delivered to Ipswich and onward locally. Two days of no show and excuses. It's obvious that he is reselling the same car over and over and taking advantage of people based far away offering cheap delivery knowing there will not be a customer turning up to view a car first.

My friends are in no position to loose this money. Like most on here trying to find a bargain due to tight finances. This person is stealing money from exactly the type of people that have tight finances in the first place. They have contacted the police and discovered he has scammed at least six cars this month.

So far I have discovered like others the company directors are a "Phillip Edwards" Architect, and an "Anne Edwards" solicitor. Also I note in the eBay advert under sellers legal information, mention of a "Sam Julian" with a phone number "Lebara mobile voicemail" and an outlook email address.

I have been doing a lot of digging and find no other contact detail for an Anne or Phillip Edwards.
I am searching for details of the two and will continue to do so.

I'd like to recommend all people on this thread who have been tricked to work together as a group and quickly as time is of the essence to find this scumbag and hopefully work with the police to get monies back.
I think working together to pool resources will make things quicker. I'm happy to act as group spokesman.
I think the first thing will be to track down Anne and Phillip Edwards through companies house to find out if they have any connection at all with the seller.
Also all contacting your individual banks to trace the details of the deposit account to see if it's the same account each person has deposited into, and if it is based in the uk. This should hopefully narrow things down.
Again if all parties are able to contact small claims and county court as a group might be beneficial.

Look forward to replies.

May 15th, 2016, 09:15	#30
Jonny v50 New Member Last Online: Aug 30th, 2022 17:49 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: London	Group pressure Hello I have had two friends scammed by this as well. The same Volvo XC70 for sale at £6000. The car was supposed to be delivered to Ipswich and onward locally. Two days of no show and excuses. It's obvious that he is reselling the same car over and over and taking advantage of people based far away offering cheap delivery knowing there will not be a customer turning up to view a car first. My friends are in no position to loose this money. Like most on here trying to find a bargain due to tight finances. This person is stealing money from exactly the type of people that have tight finances in the first place. They have contacted the police and discovered he has scammed at least six cars this month. So far I have discovered like others the company directors are a "Phillip Edwards" Architect, and an "Anne Edwards" solicitor. Also I note in the eBay advert under sellers legal information, mention of a "Sam Julian" with a phone number "Lebara mobile voicemail" and an outlook email address. I have been doing a lot of digging and find no other contact detail for an Anne or Phillip Edwards. I am searching for details of the two and will continue to do so. I'd like to recommend all people on this thread who have been tricked to work together as a group and quickly as time is of the essence to find this scumbag and hopefully work with the police to get monies back. I think working together to pool resources will make things quicker. I'm happy to act as group spokesman. I think the first thing will be to track down Anne and Phillip Edwards through companies house to find out if they have any connection at all with the seller. Also all contacting your individual banks to trace the details of the deposit account to see if it's the same account each person has deposited into, and if it is based in the uk. This should hopefully narrow things down. Again if all parties are able to contact small claims and county court as a group might be beneficial. Look forward to replies.

May 15th, 2016, 07:08	#22
kieran40 I've Been Banned Last Online: Mar 4th, 2023 12:36 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: paignton	Yes deffo mike

May 15th, 2016, 08:48	#29
Simon Jones Premier Member Last Online: May 29th, 2024 06:32 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Salisbury (ish)	Just to play Devils advocate for one minute: the car was due to be delivered Saturday and so far has not arrived, and they haven't answered the phone. Perhaps the chap was in the process of driving it up to Ipswich and there has been a problem on the way? Before I rang the other week to enquire about the XC70, I did a quick search online for the seller and found no signs of any reviews for a 'family run business ... with over 30 years experience in the motor industry' which did seem a bit strange. I don't think there is much that eBay will be able to do as it was a classified ad rather than an auction so the transaction was outside of their control. The purchase was not made with PayPay or a credit card so there is minimal protection with a bank transfer but it may be worth contacting the bank in the morning to see if they can offer some assistance.

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