General: 164: It runs! and drives! (some drama)

[nonhog]

Good ideas John.
Now whats "tick over"?

Yet to clean ground points and fuse block, on my list of to do's. I replaced the one split vac hose with no change.
I'll track it down.
With this forum (and others),my service manual and this...
http://volvo1800pictures.com/documen...lt_tracing.pdf

I do work at a Toyota dealer who has a injector cleaner but might need to fab an adaptor?

(some 'before' pics, not that its changed that much-yet)

[john h]

Tickover = idle .... running but no load


Interesting that it has the 4 panel rear lights. I thought all '75 US cars had the larger 6 panel lights

[nonhog]

Originally Posted by john h

Tickover = idle .... running but no load


Interesting that it has the 4 panel rear lights. I thought all '75 US cars had the larger 6 panel lights

Ah ha! tickover, now I know.

Speaking of rear lights I think they are 164 specific. Correct? One is cracked and one is broken. Probably not an easy find.

[john h]

Originally Posted by nonhog

Speaking of rear lights I think they are 164 specific. Correct? One is cracked and one is broken. Probably not an easy find.

Not too difficult. The 4 panel lights are shared with 140 and 240 1973 to 1978/9.

Volvo used two original manufacturers, Cibie and Hella. Their lights look almost the same, but parts do not interchange - i.e. a Hella backplate needs a Hella lens.

KG have new Cibie lenses, page 127 (... also nice B30 engine parts.... )

http://www.kgtrimning.com/defaultE.htm

They speak good English, so give them a call.


John

[nonhog]

Today I cleaned the ground (was nasty) replaced another split hose, lubed the throttle blad shaft and it runs a bit better in fact it never died. I'll try a warm start and see how it goes.
Still have old fuel. I did not want to drain it as it has half a tank and today is 90* pretty hot for the Seattle area.
Likely not done yet. More to check more to do but its headed the right direction.

Tach registers 0 or near 0 at idle, typical?

[arcturus]

Top up your tank with 98 octane (super) it will make a big difference.

[nonhog]

Originally Posted by john h

There is a black plastic 'tap' on the vaccum pipes to adjust tickover (on Euro versions anyway)

Rule of thumb on adj. that? Little at a time? clockwise?

Originally Posted by arcturus

Top up your tank with 98 octane (super) it will make a big difference.

To make up for the aged fuel that has weakened over time? Our gas (super)
is 92. Does this car require super?

Runs pretty good when @ 35 and higher. I think I'll let the tank lower before topping off with fresh and probably add some 44K. http://www.bgprod.com/products/fuelair.html

[arcturus]

I'm not familiar with the six pot but using "super" made a big difference on my B20b. John h will probably know more about it. Yes, fuel goes "off" when left standing for some time

[nonhog]

So I drove the 164 to work to run more of the old gas through.
Did o.k. on the 20 mile each way trip.
Then when I got home it did not die (almost did) so I twisted the idle valve and it seemed to smooth out a very slight amount.
Fast forward a couple hours.....
My wife suggests we take the 164 out for ice cream. Right away I should have known something wasn't right. was running a little rough. I figured it was due to me not warming it up enough.
As it turns out the new alt. belt I installed was either not tight enough or was a bad belt? Battery died car stalled and would not restart.
Called a friend to come by and give me a jump start. No good, battery too far gone.
More waiting.........................
Came back with his boat battery (deep cycle) started and ran great, lucky I was able to keep it moving and just cool enough. (I hope)
Got it home after maybe a 5 mile trip and popped the hood.
Now I am in finger crossing mode.

Almost 10 people stopped to offer help. Pretty cool! Including a couple from Sweden.

I have tomorrow off of work but my time will be limited as it is suppose to be
95+ degree's, enough to melt the average Seattelite.

I am not looking forward to installing a new alt. belt. LOL

[guitarman]

It's a good idea to re-tension the belt after 20 mls or so driving, they tend to stretch a bit. Touch wood- I've had no trouble with the 164s alternator. My other cars have both needed new ones- generally the brushes go or the diodes. It's not so easy to find companies that overhaul them now so a new one is often the best course. Hopefully you won't need to do that though. Could be the voltage regulator- this is a fairly simple bit of kit that can usually be DIY fixed, there's usually a relay which prevents battery drain to- another easy fix. At any rate it's all pretty lo-tech stuff. Jimmy