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Old Jul 27th, 2023, 15:34   #11
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hi,
No there is no play when pulling the shaft toward the cabin of the csr. The spring compresses against the outer casing item 21 on my picture. Obviously if you let go of the column the spring returns pushing it out of the casing but tighening the steering wheel nut pulls the colmun up through but it just seems the couling and steering wheel need something to space them apart but there is nothing missing on my car compared to that in the diagram?



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Looks to me that the only thing stopping the column pulling up is the bearing race at the bottom, if there is slack here that could give you an issue, is there any play in the shaft in and out
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Old Jul 27th, 2023, 22:13   #12
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#21 is the bearing and that pushes inside the tube. It won't do that if it is the wrong way round. When pushed in the spring then goes inside the bearing casing as it is smaller in diameter.
Is your steering column the same as the parts illustration or like this one? Difference is that your pic shows the upper mount for the flexi disc to be part of the shaft and this one I am posting has a splined fitting the same as the lower one.
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Old Jul 28th, 2023, 13:51   #13
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Can you just add a washer on the splined shaft? If that allows the wheel to be tightened up without rubbing the cowl it rules out play in the shaft and points to the shaft being installed too deep in the outer housing
Does that make sense?
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Old Jul 29th, 2023, 13:55   #14
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The splines on the wheel and shaft just mate together so the position is fixed. Being a taper the amount of movement when the nut is tightened is basically nil. There is nowhere to add a washer.
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Hi Derek,
Puller now in my possession!
So now you have posted the second schematic, i am now doubting which configuration i have. I will have a look and take a picture, but not going to have a chance probably til next week now, although the comment re the bearing being the wrong way around is interesting, but my thoughts are this has never been touched.
As soon as i can i will post more info.

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#21 is the bearing and that pushes inside the tube. It won't do that if it is the wrong way round. When pushed in the spring then goes inside the bearing casing as it is smaller in diameter.
Is your steering column the same as the parts illustration or like this one? Difference is that your pic shows the upper mount for the flexi disc to be part of the shaft and this one I am posting has a splined fitting the same as the lower one.
Good luck with the puller.
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Old Jul 29th, 2023, 17:13   #16
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Originally when i stripped it all down i saw that item 60 the washer was missing so thought that was the problem, it was not! Looking at that washer i do not understand what it does do as it sits on top of the bearing casing but is not held in place when tightened down, as the cancelling indicator bracket part 59 sits further up the shaft toward the steering wheel, and as derek says the shaft is tapered so only travels down a set distance.
I thought the same thing as yourself, why noy get a large washer or a number of them and space it out, but this does not do anything as it binds against the cancelling bracket and still pushes against the couling. I may take a video and post the link for it on you tube.

I have quite a few more grey hairs since trying to solve this, and yes my guess is it is still something very ,that someone would look, and answer the issue i have!

Thank you for thoughts on this.
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Can you just add a washer on the splined shaft? If that allows the wheel to be tightened up without rubbing the cowl it rules out play in the shaft and points to the shaft being installed too deep in the outer housing
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Old Jul 29th, 2023, 18:34   #17
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Can anyone measure the distance the shaft sticks out? Either the shaft is sitting too far into the support tube or for some reason the wheel is going further on
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What would you reference the measurement against?

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Can anyone measure the distance the shaft sticks out? Either the shaft is sitting too far into the support tube or for some reason the wheel is going further on
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What would you reference the measurement against?
Anything fixed but whatever the cowl fixes to is probably best
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Old Jul 30th, 2023, 10:17   #20
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Yes but what what i mean is once you have that what do you reference the mesurement with? I dont think there is a tolerance stated for what it should be so wouldnt know if the measurement i take is right or wrong?


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