[960,95+] Rear suspnsion transfer Saloon 2 Estate, possible?

[malin]

Originally Posted by cumbrianmale

What parts are you after?

Engine, gearbox, steering rack, seats,rear support arms,and other bits and bobs - a whole car really would do. Low mileage, could be accident damage. I want to drive this one for a few years so you never know whats gonna be needed.

[CTCNetwork]

Hi,

I have this feeling you can't fit IRS on an non IRS (Live axle) vehicle..

Certainly not without some creative construction...

Des. . .

[malin]

Originally Posted by CTCNetwork

Hi,

I have this feeling you can't fit IRS on an non IRS (Live axle) vehicle..

Certainly not without some creative construction...

Des. . .

I think the same.

I finally got hold of Volvo Vadis

And it looks that in the 960 3.0 95+ facelift models differences in the rear suspension beetwen saloons and estates are:

Non-Nivomat:

Saloons
- leaf spring(HD) - p no. 6819301
- shocks - p no. 271899

Estates
- leaf spring(HD) - p no. 9140471
- shocks - p no 272220.

Nivomat:

Saloons
- leaf spring(LD) - p no. 6819300
- shocks - p no. 272208

Estates
- leaf spring(HD) - p no. 6819300
- shocks - p no 272209.

This answers my questions.

It looks like there is 3 different type of leaf springs and 4 different shocks. If in non-nivomat suspensions there are different springs and in the nivomat spring is the same, it means that nivo shocks will differ between saloons and estates but spring will be transferable.
Rest of the suspension looks the same - bushes, arms,links etc.

If I would use a HD spring from saloon - leaf spring(HD) - p no. 6819301 with esates nivo shock it would raise the rear end(as Des pointed that out) - but probably less than a HD spring from estate - leaf spring(HD) - p no. 9140471, and if i would put a standard shocks for estates - shocks - p no 272220 with a hd spring from saloons - it will drop down.

Originally Posted by niloc

A similar question - I have a facelift saloon with 6 month old nivos, and a facelift estate that needs new nivos. The saloon is coming off the road for good this week, and I want to transfer the nivos, brakes and wheels to the estate. Will the nivos fit?
I know they have 2 different part numbers for the saloon and estate - is there just a difference in the expected loading?

I think shocks will fit - physically - and they will cope with light loads - they should 'treat' normal estate load as the saloons heavy load and adopt to it (raise the ride height after some distanece) and when you stop they will drop more. And also they will strugle with a heavy load. Thats how I see it anyway.




It looks that actually one of my nivo shocks failed... It drops on one side a lot more than on the other - after a drive it pumps up but still less than on the other side and drops down quite quiclky.
I had a quick look under a car and I dont see it leaking but other thing is that an antiroll bar has been pulled out of the one support arm almost completely and pushed in to a failed shock side support arm. Other thing is that the shocks bushings droped down so theyra gone anyway.

Des where did you get this leaf spring(HD) for estates - p no. 9140471 from ?
And how much?

I'm seriously thinking about changing a nivo suspension to non-nivo.
The aftermarket nivo shocks seems to be poor quality and dont last long. These - although Sachs - last 35K. The previous owner had a previous set changed under a warranty after 15k. It just seems like a waste of a 400 pounds really...

[CTCNetwork]

Hi,

When I was enquiring about this, there were 2 part numbers/parts.
One thick and one thin. Both these for the estate (as I have the V90 that was what I researched) so not sure about the saloon. As far as the dealer parts people knew there were only 2, and Volvo Cars UK hadn't a clue!!

Neither "spring" is stocked in the UK. Swedish order and they come out at about £155 and £150 (or a bit less) if I remember. Not sure which was which. They ain't cheap!!!
But then they last for . . . . ?

What I DO know is that the weak spring goes with the Nivo's. The strong one with standard shocks.
As I said I had the strong one in with Nivo's and the ride height was way too high at the back..

Des. . .

[malin]

Originally Posted by CTCNetwork

Hi,

When I was enquiring about this, there were 2 part numbers/parts.
One thick and one thin. Both these for the estate (as I have the V90 that was what I researched) so not sure about the saloon. As far as the dealer parts people knew there were only 2, and Volvo Cars UK hadn't a clue!!

Neither "spring" is stocked in the UK. Swedish order and they come out at about £155 and £150 (or a bit less) if I remember. Not sure which was which. They ain't cheap!!!
But then they last for . . . . ?

What I DO know is that the weak spring goes with the Nivo's. The strong one with standard shocks.
As I said I had the strong one in with Nivo's and the ride height was way too high at the back..

Des. . .

Yes, but I want to put a thick one and a standard shocks. cost is less than both nivo shocks anyway. then is my work to it. but at least i have a peace of mind for along time.

Where did you get that spring from then Des?

[CTCNetwork]

Hi,

Got mine in stratstones in Notts...
Had it swapped back to the thin one at the MOT...
Big relief!!

Des. . .

[malin]

Thanks Des.

[cumbrianmale]

As well as the rear suspension, I have 1 good nivo and 1 leaking, an AW 30-43 gearbox. Fancy a job lot?

[malin]

Originally Posted by cumbrianmale

As well as the rear suspension, I have 1 good nivo and 1 leaking, an AW 30-43 gearbox. Fancy a job lot?

No Thanks, not at the moment.If I want any of those, I will ask.

[Crispy-d]

Hello, I just wondered what people's general thoughts were on Nivomats? I thought they were meant to be pretty good, but have recently read on many other forums that they are generally disliked, and quite a few people are even swapping them for the standard setup. Are they really no good, or is it just because they are expensive and difficult to alter (tune)?

I have also noticed there is a small plastice translucent chamber (a small tank) that has Volvo Inclination Sensor on it. Does that actively control ride height? I only ask as when I'm down at the farm, or even on some of our roads here, I find that it's actually a little too low. It would be nice to trick the car into raising a little before I go over the bumpy/uneven bits. On the other hand, it would be nice to be able to adjust the entire suspension system to raise the whole car up by just a couple of inches, but I take it that's not easy.

I know most people want to lower their cars, but I find it's not only low enough but often too low. The main problem I find with the standard setup is at the front, where it's so soft when you brake the front nose pretty much skids along the road in front! Fitting Nivomats to the front would be stupid (if even possible) I take it?