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Aug 27th, 2012, 23:19 | #111 |
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Yup, and it's historic, my own 940 is on the register and it was converted back in 2004.
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Aug 27th, 2012, 23:31 | #112 | |
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That is also for the guys who went to him to ask themselves why they also didn't ask. I personally would have thought that this would be a tightly regulated industry but it appears that it is far from it. What you have got regarding the certification is Dai has said it is installed as per COP11, if it hasn't you have recourse in my opinion. |
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Aug 27th, 2012, 23:41 | #113 |
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I don't think so, it is specifically headed 'LPGA Code of Practice 11 Certificate'
Apart from that one of the reasons the whole database was moved online was to stamp out fake certificates. My own car has a genuine LPGA certificate and it has a phone number on it to check whether its genuine. I'm not sure whether that's even the point though. Assume anyone can issue their own certificate, and that is legal and acceptable. Surely the installation should comply with the current regulations, not the regulations from a defunct body that ceased to exist over 4 years ago? There is no such thing as an LPGA code of practice because the LPGA doesn't exist. |
Aug 27th, 2012, 23:57 | #114 | |
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In 2008 it was legitimate for installers to sign their own cop11 forms, that must have been before UKLPG approved fitters came into the equation, so I would imagine that fitters who are not UKLPG approved are still signing their own certificates maybe? Surely if the cop11 certificate was not enough to keep an insurance company happy we would have heard of it before now from other members who have had systems fitted by Dai, there have been no reports of other members having problems with insurance companies?? Quote from http://www.diy-lpg.co.uk/articles/fi...nversions.html which is dated 2008 "Now I’m OK, I’ve been on a course and have a certificate to say that I am, in the vernacular used in CoP11, a “competent person” - ie “a person with knowledge, training and ability to carry out their work safely and with the necessary proficiency to ensure the subsequent safe operation of the vehicle.” This means I can write my own certificate and certify that my own work meets the standards - does anyone spot the flaw in that ? Yes, whether it’s just someone who’s done a course, or an LPGA member, the person certifying the work is the one that did it - and of course you are going to fail your own work aren’t you ! And did I mention that the LPGA would like to make this a closed shop so that ONLY a full LPGA member can do the work or write certificates."
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Aug 28th, 2012, 06:51 | #115 | |
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This is going to sound harsh but for whatever work you get done on your car you can take it to an approved and qualified organisation or a backyard guy. But your point is that you've paid good money for the job and it should be done to an acceptable standard with the correct parts which I totally agree with, but as Dai is not accredited or associated with anyone it's harder to get problems rectified. I would now take it to a UKLPG qualified installer now, get an assessment and quote for bringing it up to COP11 standard as that is what you have paid for and then take it from there with Dai or go to trading standards or small claims if he won't pay to get the car done properly. |
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Aug 28th, 2012, 10:38 | #116 |
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Having been reading through a lot of lpg forums on the net it seems that you get good and bad fitters who are UKLPG approved and you get good and bad fitters who are not UKLPG approved. It also seems that if you have problems with a UKLPG approved fitter's work, UKLPG don't want to know and the certificate expires after four years anyway
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Aug 29th, 2012, 16:57 | #117 | |
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Aug 29th, 2012, 19:17 | #118 |
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farmers insurance on the explorer wont do it without its on the register same as axa they will only insure it if its on the register and isn't a diy install
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Aug 31st, 2012, 13:41 | #119 |
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We have received the letter from dai and will update more later
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Aug 31st, 2012, 16:56 | #120 |
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Looks like Dai has been banned as he didn't respond as asked to by the owners of the site.
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