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Oh 'eck 'Tank' is not at all well.......

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Old Jan 4th, 2011, 15:47   #101
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Do you have a MIG or a stick welder? You may just be able to shrink the bearing cone out. Run a bead of weld right round its bearing surface and let it cool. It'll become marginally smaller as the weld contracts. It'll need a good application of anti spatter grease on the axle surface.

If the bearing seized and turned in the axle tube it may well be game over. The other option is to carefelly split it with a dremel.
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No, I've not got a welder & have never welded either lol for that matter. Yes the more I think about it, I too think the game may well be over, for the axle at least.

hj, that shell is scored indeed. As far as I know it is actually the outer casing of the bearing & as such is not supposed to separate at all.

The whole thing must have been like it for some mileage. Mind you I'd not heard it complaining until just before crimbo & it went through the Contrôle Technique not that long ago. I also did a 250 mile round trip in late Nov'.

Oh well, looking on the bright side, I'll have a hell of a lot of good spares if I have to replace him
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Old Jan 4th, 2011, 16:40   #103
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Hi paul..its not much of a consolation but at least it did not give up the ghost completely on route somewhere..I think you"re in the situation now where its six of one and half a dozen of the other regarding repair or replace..I"m confident it can be done,,ie replacing bearing and the like..yet on the other hand a second hand axle (correct spec and all) would be also tempting..hang in there paul..Everybody here wants you to arrive triumphant!!...hj.
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No, I've not got a welder & have never welded either lol for that matter. Yes the more I think about it, I too think the game may well be over, for the axle at least.

hj, that shell is scored indeed. As far as I know it is actually the outer casing of the bearing & as such is not supposed to separate at all.

The whole thing must have been like it for some mileage. Mind you I'd not heard it complaining until just before crimbo & it went through the Contrôle Technique not that long ago. I also did a 250 mile round trip in late Nov'.

Oh well, looking on the bright side, I'll have a hell of a lot of good spares if I have to replace him
In the absence of a welder I'd get a dremel and carefully split the bearing cone. Providing the replacement doesn't rattle about it'll be fine. You can always use a drop of bearing fit. At least it'll get the car moving again.

Look around for a whole axle at your leisure but I think you have a fair chance of rescuing it. Nothing much to lose, other than a few hours of messing about.
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Hi Paul,

Gutted for you and "Tank" I'm not great at mechanicals but I would give it another go. You have a very good reason to try to save tank from the scrapyard in the sky If not I would be very tempted to get another axle and fit that, depending on cost(s). Depends really though if you can fix it yourself. For myself it looks like a big job to replace the rear axle.

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I still reckon a bit of grease'll do
Ah yes, the mechanic's equivalent to the body-shop's "That'll T-cut out!" Lol.

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Over here, it appears that a scrappy axle will be around 200€. Now that is not beyond me, lets face it it'll be much cheaper than replacing Tank with a risky 'unknown' which is my other option. Getting one out of the yard & fitting it to Tank is another matter!

Tank has had a lot or 'new stuff' fitted in the last 5 years & as such, save for this current dilemma is probably in better nick than many younger cars.

As 940_turbo say's, not a lot to lose by going at it with a Dremel I have a cheap cheap Dremel lookalike tool lol, may need to get a few new discs.... Once that lil' bugger is out I'll report back
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Over here, it appears that a scrappy axle will be around 200€. Now that is not beyond me, lets face it it'll be much cheaper than replacing Tank with a risky 'unknown' which is my other option. Getting one out of the yard & fitting it to Tank is another matter!

Tank has had a lot or 'new stuff' fitted in the last 5 years & as such, save for this current dilemma is probably in better nick than many younger cars.

As 940_turbo say's, not a lot to lose by going at it with a Dremel I have a cheap cheap Dremel lookalike tool lol, may need to get a few new discs.... Once that lil' bugger is out I'll report back
Might be worth looking at a carbide burr for the dremel rather than a cutting disc.
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Things are not going well for you are they Paul? Sorry to hear the latest set back. If it comes down to having to change axle it is not an awful job - maybe somewhat easier than the heater lol. If that looks the direction you have to go I can run you through the whole procedure.

If you take the axle off the scrap car and get it down to the bare axle it should transport ok in the 850 with suitable protection for the interior.

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I've been following this with interest, sorry to see what's happened - I'd have a go at removing the dead bearing race. I once removed a similar bearing race from a honda gearbox - it took me the best part of 2 days to remove using a combination of slide hammer, hammer and chisel, dremel, angle grinder, dry ice and swearing, but it DID come out, it was just a pig of a job and the race came out in about 4 pieces. Those races are hardened steel and don't give up easily. I can't tell if you could get a slide hammer behind that - if you can, it will make the job a million times easier.
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